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Sick Leave, Retirement Annuities, and CSRS Employees

Sick Leave

office operations
VA
Sat Oct 2, 2004 1:15 AM

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Just one little problem with this premise about sick leave counting toward retirement under CSRS. If you have already met the full number of years (42) to max out your retirement, you don't get any extra credit and you end up giving it all back. So, for those of us, who have stuck it out that long, there is no incentive not to burn off the SL when approaching or passing 42 years. Of course, if you've spent 42 years with the VA, your mental health is shot anyway and you need to take the SL1

Re: Sick Leave

Secretary
NARFE-NY
Sat Oct 2, 2004 8:18 AM
Lest we forget, all FERS employees are not created equal; VA Nurses, who are under the FERS retirement system, do not lose their SL when they retire.

Re: Sick Leave

Retiree
DHS
Mon Oct 4, 2004 7:03 AM
Your statement regarding inability to count sick leave if you have 42 years service is not accurate. The credit for sick leave is in addition to the credit for 41 years and 11 months service (if you have that much creditable work time). The limit on creditable work time amounts to 80% but you can collect more than 80% when the sick leave is added. What does happen is that if you have more than 41 years 11 months work time, you do not get credit for the excess but still could collect over 80% of high three if you have at least a months worth of sick leave.

Re: Sick Leave

Management Analyst
DON
Mon Oct 4, 2004 12:08 PM
I applaud the response from the HR specialist (DoD). Fellow Civil Servants...CHARACTER IS DOING THE RIGHT THING...WHEN NOONE IS WATCHING! If you are sick, use the leave; if you are not sick, don't take the leave...someday, it may have to serve as an "insurance" policy, heaven forbid, if/when you really, really need it. Forget the CSRS/FERS conflict... For those who prefer to take advantage of a sick leave balance as you near retirement, I say shame on you for justifying the abuse/misuse of sick leave. What kind of legacy and impression do you want to leave those that will continue as "public servants" long after you've retired?

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Benefits Specialist
NITP
Sun Oct 17, 2004 12:50 PM
Did you know that you can use your unused sick leave to go above the 80% maximum CSRS benefit... i.e. 42 years of service, 1 year of sick leave = 82% of high-three

sick leave

supervisor
usda
Wed Nov 10, 2004 3:49 PM

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Have you heard any one complain about not collecting on their term life insurance ? Fers folks got a term policy for health. No, I don't like the abuse of the system and think a reward/compensation should be given to people who do come to work.

FERS sick leave

Rural Dev Manager
Rural Housing Service
Tue Dec 28, 2004 9:49 AM

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When we were hired we agreed to certain terms...being able to steal from the gov't by abusing leave was not part of the deal. How would the abuser feel if the Gov't. decided to do the same...for example, reduce the gov't contribution to FERS and in effect steal from the employee. I'm not a very religious person but I think we need to remember the Golden Rule in life and at work.

Mountains

QA
DOD
Wed Dec 29, 2004 7:55 AM

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If you only knew how great the fishing is during the summer in the Rocky Mountains...

FERS Sick Leave

Psychologist
DOJ/BOP
Thu May 12, 2005 2:35 PM

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When I hired into this agency in 1985, there was no option to choose between CSRS and FERS. All employees became FERS employees. After 20 years in law enforcement, I am eligible to retire soon. Although I have had a major illness, I still maintain 1600 hours of sick leave. The agency that I work for is a 24/7 work environment, unlike other federal services. If someone at the Postal Service, FDA, or FBI wants to take a "sick day" they do not have to have another body in their place. At this point in time, due to the introduction of FERS in the 1980's, a majority of the federal workforce will fall under this leave system. As a FERS employee, I take certain risks with my TSP account to maximize my gains, but am also aware that I can (and have) sustain(ed) substantial losses due to economic conditions. As a FERS employee, my pension based on "high 3" amounts to about 40% of my current income. My incentive to remain a good, loyal, federal employee and not use my sick leave will eventually allow me purchase one of the most expensive retirement watches in history (estimating approx. $100,000 against unused sick leave).
Will the Federal government experience an epidemic of "blue flu" in the coming years? I am afraid so.
Write your representatives in Washington and ask them to revisit a buyback program for FERS sick leave.

fers sick leave

unit admministrator
Department of the Army
Fri Jun 10, 2005 9:34 AM

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I have cancer and have been told that I can not use the 1133 hours of
sick leave accumulated. I will be forced to take disability retirement.

FERS sick leave

Engrg Suprv
US Army
Sun Jun 12, 2005 8:30 AM

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I don't understand why someone would be forced to take a disability. I'd consider seeing a lawyer. Have your doctors indicated that you're terminal? I've had people working for me on sick leave with cancer, both CSRS and FERS, for as much as six months using their sick leave and have appreciated the use of leave donations. Personally, I'm in FERS, and I do not condone sick leave abuse, I have attained over 2100 hours. I have a job such that if I take leave, I still have to get the work done, with the exception of a few trivial items, nobody picks up my primary workload. The same goes for most of the people that work for me. I agree with "Psychologist" that we should write our senators and congressman to lobby for a "buy back".

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