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Misuse of Government Computer Can Get You Fired

Bross v. Dept of Commerce

QA Specialist
psns
Tue Nov 30, 2004 8:48 AM

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The arguement that there were no victimes by Bross' downloading and viewing child pornography is errant. The children used to make these photos are the victims and will carry the emotional scars of the abuse for the rest of their lives. Bross should be locked up and not let out again.

Re: Bross v. Dept of Commerce

Office Assistant
USDA
Tue Nov 30, 2004 9:56 AM
I agree. The victims in this case are the children. Adults involved in this know better, but it is the child that is hurt. Michael Reagan's book describes how he was vicitimized, as a child, by this same thing.

Bross vs. Dept of Commerce

General Engineer
DOT
Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:21 AM

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I also agree that the children are victims of downloading. As far as I'm concerned, Mr Bross got off lucky, i.e. 3 years probation.

Bross vs. Dept of Commerce

General Engineer
DOT
Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:21 AM

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I also agree that the children are victims of downloading. As far as I'm concerned, Mr Bross got off lucky, i.e. 3 years probation.

misuse of computers

clerk
VA
Tue Nov 30, 2004 7:19 PM

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This guy deserved to get fired, but so does any government employee who views pornography at work. Unfortunately, that doesn't happen unless you are a nobody.

At the facility where I work, a few years back, seven department heads had a phorography ring going where they passed pornography around to each other via the Outlook email system. They were reported, and as punishment, were told not to do it again. That was it - not even a reprimand!

Had it been some low-level person caught doing this, the employee would have been fired before sunset.

And they wonder why we are suspicious of pay for performance!

Re: misuse of computers

Management Analyst
VA
Mon Jan 23, 2006 10:15 AM
VA Clerk is exactly correct, the VA has a long history of inconsistent application of discipline, & the higher you go, the more Teflon you encounter.

We had a Chief of Staff, the #1 MD in our hospital & a true VA Good Old Boy, who tried to cover up his medical errors by taking 200 pages of a veterans medical record out of the medical chart & then had Release of Information give that version to the family's attorneys as the official record of treatment.

Unfortunately he didn't know the family already had a complete copy obtained earler, ooops.

The Table of Penalties VA-wide policy for this action is dismissal on the first offense, and it was totally ignored by three --- yes three --- levels of VHA management.

Lots of other examples, but suffice it to say the VA has ALOT of work to do to convince most of us that discipline is applied uniformly.

No one up the VA management ladder should wonder for a New York Minute why there is so much LMR unrest in this Department!
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