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President Proposes 2.2% Pay Raise for Feds in 2007

What About NSPS?

PA Specialist
AFRC
Mon Feb 6, 2006 3:14 PM

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Isn't all this speculation about 2007 pay raises premature?

If NSPS is implemented, then there won't be any annual pay raise--only $$ that the supervisor deems the worker is worthy of. That was the whole point of P4P.

Or, Mr Smith, do you know something we don't?

nsps

fedsmith
editor
Mon Feb 6, 2006 3:17 PM

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No one can predict with any certainty what will happen with proposed changes to the civil service structure. Even if it does go through as proposed, other agencies will still be under the GS system.

2.2% Maybe

HR Specialist
usdoj
Tue Feb 7, 2006 7:17 AM

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As always, the devil is in the details. The Administration has slipped in "smart pay adjustments." That is, they want to be able to pay higher salaries to some favored agencies, positions, locations, or who knows. Those details have not been included in the budget. Those "smart pay adjustments may eat up most or all of our pay increases. Don't count your chickens before they are hatched!

Annual pay raise

Case Technician
Office of Hearing & Appeals
Tue Feb 7, 2006 8:08 AM

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The annual pay raise should be equal to what employees earn in private industry.

Re: Annual pay raise

Manager
DoD
Tue Feb 7, 2006 8:20 AM
IN some cases, federal pay substantially exceeds what a comparable position in private industry would make. In other cases, it is far less. The federal pay system runs on seniority and geography; it often has little to do with the market value of the services being performed by an employee. The administration is trying to overcome some of these disparities. It is not likely they will succeed as the bureaucracy is too entrenched and too many people are afraid of change.

Re: Annual pay raise

HR Specialist
DoD
Tue Feb 7, 2006 8:28 AM
So in other words you want a pay cut, or perhaps you mean you want more money? That statement is at best, too broad and vague. I agree with Manager Dod's comments above - in some cases, private sector pay is far less than a comparable job in the government, but in some cases, it can be more. I get tired though of hearing feds complain all the time that they are underpaid relative to the private sector - that isn't ALWAYS the case, only sometimes.

Pay Raise

Budget Analyst
DOD
Tue Feb 7, 2006 9:04 AM

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I don't care what the percentage is. This last pay raise amounted to a whopping $29 in my pay after the increases in health insurance. That's not even enough to make up for the increased cost in gas. While I am not giving it back, I don't think it was much of a pay raise at all!

Re: Pay Raise

HR
Navy
Tue Feb 7, 2006 12:03 PM
I don't think private industry has the pleasure of annual pay adjustments. And it's not the government's responsibility to pay for your gas, food, mortgage etc. I don't know about you, but I don't care for the govt to give me ration tickets for food, gas, etc. It's my responsibility to budget my expenses to my income. I think that's covered in Basic Life 101. Private industry does not pay any better than the Fed govt. If they did, no one would work for the govt.

Re: Pay Raise

Management Assistant
SSA
Tue Feb 7, 2006 12:15 PM
Your take home was $29.00? Congratulations, mine came to a "whopping" $8.00.

Re: Pay Raise

Budget Analyst
DOD
Wed Feb 8, 2006 2:57 PM
When my husband got his job about Jun 2000 we were making about the same. He is now making $10K a year more than me. He receives a bonus each year of several thousand dollars and pay raises based on his annual appraisal. While I don't expect the gov't to ration my living expenses, I do expect a pay raise to end up to be a little more substantial than $29. I am so glad you can look down your nose at my comment. Apparently you are one of "those" making too much money since you seem to have no problem with everyday living expenses continual going up while pay is pretty static.

Re: Pay Raise

Customer Account Specialist
DOD
Thu Feb 9, 2006 9:58 AM
Hey Navy HR, so what you're saying is, when you're health benefits increase 21% and eat up most of your annual raise, you buy soup instead of chicken? Good for you! You're just the person this administration and Wal-Mart is looking for!

Re: Pay Raise

HR
Navy
Wed Sep 27, 2006 8:36 AM
Yes, I guess that is what I'm saying. Cut corners where you can, or supplement your income with a second job. I did it out of necessity just so I could feed my children. You do what it takes. But to just sit back and say, "Govt, feed me!" I just don't want any part of that. If you think that somehow we made more money when Democrats were in office, well, I've got a bridge for sale. As a matter of fact, the highest increase we ever got came from a Republican (Reagan). We don't get cost of living increases, we get pay adjustments. There's a difference. And there's nothing that prevents our annual pay adjustment from being taken away either. All I'm saying is to stop blaming the govt for your perceived lack of income. Go to private industry if you think the grass is greener.

Annual Pay Raise

Contract Manager
DA
Tue Feb 7, 2006 10:32 AM

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It is my understanding that areas of the country that receive Locality Pay would still receive a raise if wages in their areas rise? Am I wrong?

Pay Raise Complaints..Again.

Program Analyst
GSA
Wed Feb 8, 2006 10:04 AM

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I understand the importance of pay for employees but it amazes me to see the number of Feds who complain every year when raise speculations are announced.
First, I know there are many levels within the government and not everyone makes the same pay but we all have options open to us when it comes to complaining about our FED jobs/pay:
1. Seek a job outside that will give you what you want or what you think you deserve.
2. Understand what your pay is and live within your means (Not to insult anyone) but we all knew what we would be paid when we took our jobs.
3. Improve your marketability or promotion prospects by education or other qualifications to get what you want.
I'm was not naive enough to think I would get rich working for Uncle S but the alternative (RIFs) we may face for demanding larger paychecks every year with the ridiculous spending that goes on may backfire in the long run when we're forced to look for other jobs. After all, no one forced us to work here.

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