I am a republican and it seems we only have 3 things to offer the American public this election.
1.) If Democrats hold the executive branch and a majority of legislative branches, they will become as corrupt as we were.
2.) Democrats are soft on national security and will fund domestic programs in lieu of national defense.
3.) Democrats are of questionable moral character.— Obama is a secret Muslim (Hussein is his middle name) , a friend to terrorists (associated with Ayers), not a real American (Born outside of the US--Hawaii).
We need to focus more on what we have to offer and less on gimics that point out how bad the opposition is.
Re: We need a new marketing plan
Engineer FAA Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:20 AM
I am a progressive conservative and have three comments
1. The Republican party lost it's way in the mid 80's (yes, under R.R.), and became a big borrow and spend party (vs. tax and spend).
2. Democrats recognize we can't afford to police the world anymore, and need to take care of our own first (a plus for them).
3. Is being a Muslim bad? Like when McCain corrected the women on Obama being an Arab - he said, "No, he's a decent person". Can't you be an Arab and a decent peorson too? Plus, Palin was asked if abortion clinic bombers were terrorists, and she said "I don't know".
I thought that was the definition of terrorist - one who used terror to advance their ideals.
Looks like hard line right wingers are friends with terrorists too.
McCain was born outside the US also in Panama, and in 1936 he was not eligible to run for President (that law was changed in 1938 to allow for foreign military bases).
I am supporting Chuck Baldwin - Consitution Party.
Re: We need a new marketing plan
Analyst DOI Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:34 AM
Budget Analyst of DoD needs to get his or her facts straight. Obama is not a "secret Muslim." And anyway, so what if he were Muslim? Are you saying that a Muslim could never be President? Tell that to Congressman Keith Ellison, a popular Minnesota lawmaker who is that body's first member of Muslim faith. Bill Ayers is now a highly honored, fairly mainstream professor of education in Chicago. He has been honored by Republicans and Democrats alike, including the Annenberg Fdn, which has ties to Reagan and other R's. When Ayers was involved in his shady activities, Obama was 8 years old. Obama was born in Hawaii. But guess what-- even if he had been born on the Moon, his mom's American which would--guess what-- make Obama an American citizen.
Engineer -- FAA, you have some great points, but dependingon your State of residence, a vote for Baldwin is as good as a vote for McCain.
Obama'll help our standing and security on the world stage, while mitigating trickle-up economics @home
Re: We need a new marketing plan
Manager USDA Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:22 AM
Your response reveals a fundamental flaw (regarding the statement that Mr. Obama is a secret Muslim. ) This is offensive to any American who believes in the Constitution of the United States. We do not have a state religion, there is a separation of the church and state, and the insinuation that only a Christian can become the President is morally and legally offensive. I will not vote for a representative of a party who espouses such view points.
Re: We need a new marketing plan
Unhigh on the Food Chain VA Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:06 AM
You write as though The next greatest President named himself (Hussein). Perhaps we should link your name to something unpopular?
Re: We need a new marketing plan
Budget Analyst DoD Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:58 AM
DOI and FAA, I am sorry and I am not advocating he is a Muslim. What I am saying that we Republicans offer a few cheap shots rather than leadership for today and hope for the future.
Re: We need a new marketing plan
Diversity Manager DOL Mon Oct 27, 2008 4:09 PM
The annenberg foundation is a far left organization just look at the Bill Moyers journal that they sponsor.
I learned something last week from a Wash Post reporter, as to the term "non-partisan".
While the Annenberg foundation is always found in print with the tag non-partisan. I asked why/how that could be.
He informed me its a self tag that organizations are free to use the term and the editorial staff always makes them use it.
So in the future the KKK can bill themselves as non-partisan
Re: We need a new marketing plan
ATSS FAA Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:53 AM
If I were running for president would it be ok if I had ties to George Wallace (if he were still alive) since he later softened he views on segragation but when I was 8 he stood in the doors of the university trying to stop African American people from lawfuly entering?
No, it would not!! I would be branded a racist.
Ayers has not disavowed his actions, instead he wishes he had done more. Most of his honors comes from people who agree with him. It is not ok for Obama to associate with this man.
By the way, Democrats can be as dirty as Republicans
can be. People overlook the "sins"of the people they support.
Voted!
Supreme Mongo Bureau of Mongo Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:30 AM
Here in FL. early voting has kicked off. Mine went to the McCain/Palin ticket, but I don't think it did much good. I was outnumbered at the polls by about 70 to 1 by Obama supporters (wearing his pins anyway which is a pretty strong indication).
Re: Voted!
Asset Manager GSA Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:40 PM
I voted too. McCain/Palin - I do not understand the willingness of folks to vote for a person who (in his own book) admitted to experimenting and taking with all types of drugs: who has maintained a (albeit) casual/business acquaintance with Ayers, an unapologetic domestic terrorist: who mentored with and attended a church that cursed and spewed hatred for America for 20 years; that in 2001 in a radio interview said in HIS OWN WORDS - the "Constitution is flawed!" The Founding Fathers ' Erred in their writings". If elected - Obama WILL restructure the Constitution that has given Americans a FREE CHOICE and all those hard line Tax and Spend and Welfare Democrats - will be scratching their heads saying " how did this happen". Hello - wake up and pay attention! P.S. George Bush is the scape goat - Remember - the President has only One Vote - Yes, No or Veto - just one. The Congress has 435! With the Democratic party in Control (a filabuster proof regime) - what will happen?
Selection Process
HR Spec. USDA Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:54 AM
McCain never differentiated himself from Bush. We've had 8 years of unmitigated foreign policy, economic, financial, and emergency management disasters. This country cannot survive another 4 years of such incompetence.
What really tipped the balance for me was the selection of Sarah Palin as the VP candidate. Even several prominent Republicans have pointed out she is unqualified. She does not convey a very executive image with her folksy use of slang and parading her Downes Syndrome baby around like a sack of potatoes. I don't want a president or vice-president who is "just like me." I want a candidate who is a lot smarter than me and qualified to deal with a wide range of complex issues.
Re: Selection Process
Analyst DOI Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:36 AM
USDA HR Spec, you are right on the $ when you say, "I don't want a president or vice-president who is "just like me." I want a candidate who is a lot smarter than me and qualified to deal with a wide range of complex issues."
I also don't want a Pres who is going to keep trying to erode people's individual rights here at home and push a politics of division and hatred here at home. And I want a Supreme Court that will NOT take away the right to abortion.
Re: Selection Process
Systems Analysis Dept of the Navy Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:06 AM
I totally agree with HR Spec USDA. I am a Republican and I am definitely voting for Obama/Biden. Sarah Palin is very unqualified, she is a joke wherever she goes. The reason why she wouldn't talk to Good Morning America is because she doesn't know much at all and doesn't want to embarass or hurt the Republican party. How could anyone want to vote for another 4 years of Bushism??? Another very important thing to think about....McCain is 72 yrs old now, keep in mind that Palin would be the next 'in charge'---oh my God can you believe that? All that I can say to everyone is really think about your vote, if you read & seriously listened to everything you will cast your vote for Obama because he will help everyone. If you are rich, then vote for McCain but don't expect anything from him-he is just looking to fill his own pockets & probably will buy another home for him & his rich wife (they already have 7 homes!). Good luck! PS-the Anchorage Alaska Press endorsed Obama!!
Re: Selection Process
Fed Peasant DOD Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:35 AM
Systems Analysis/Dept of the Navy:
I have a hard time with a person who will not support & respect, the constitution of the United States. (She does not know it either, for VP duties) She & her husband have associations and/or membership with an Alaska seccessionist group. Would a member of the old Confederate States of America even be allowed to run for office? Especially a high office!!! Think about it!!! How can any thinking American vote for someone who would allow the dissolution, & break up, of the USA!!! This is treason & anarchy!!! That is beyond me!!! It's scary that some of our fellow citizens would elect such a person to power!!!
Re: Selection Process
Retired Retired Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:23 AM
"I want a candidate who is a lot smarter than me ...."
If BO is smarter than you, you must be dumb as a stump!
Re: Selection Process
IT Specialist Overseas Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:33 AM
Already mailed in my Absentee Ballot for Obama/Biden, was debating for a long time but then the Republican party picked the wrong running mate, Sarah Palin, for all the wrong reasons. Did they really believe the female voters - maybe in favor of Hillary - would now vote for a female vice president with McCain!! I totally agree with all the comments under "Selection Process" re. Palin.
Re: Selection Process
Diversity Manager DOL Mon Oct 27, 2008 4:13 PM
Fortunately Sarah Palin has more experience than Barak and would make a good president if something happened to McCain. While you quote some republicans Barak's own running mate Biden has said he's to inexperienced so who should you believe a few unnamed sources or the VP picked by barak??
Re: Selection Process
IT Spec dod Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:18 PM
Speaking of lack of experience, look at the top of the Democratic ticket. Sure he makes good speeches but talk is cheap. What has he actually done?
Re: Selection Process
Retired Retired Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:08 AM
I respected McCain until he selected Sarah Palin. What other ridiculous, more dangerous decisons would this man make as president?
Re: Selection Process
Programmer TSO Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:10 PM
Retired, the premise of your question is invalid. Palin has more executive experience (and she's running for an executive position) than any of the other three candidates.
Re: Selection Process
Locutus Borg Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:12 AM
Fed Peasant asked "Would a member of the old Confederate States of America even be allowed to run for office? Especially a high office!!! Think about it!!!"
The answer is no. The Confederate States of America came to an end in 1865 when General Robert E. Lee surrendered. All members of "the old Confederate States of America" have been dead for years. While there is a lot of dead wood in Congress and many zombie-like members, none of them actually is dead.
Re: Selection Process
Working Drone DoD Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:26 AM
I have to laugh at all these people moaning about Sarah Palin's inexperience. Bill Clinton was the governor of one of the worst states in the U.S. when he was elected with no Congressional experience. So, do the Democrats believe he was incompetent because of his inexperience?
Obama's lack of experience for the job of president concerns me far more than Palin's lack of experience for the job of vice president. Obama is a first-term senator who spent the first part of his term writing his book and the last part running for president. He would not be selected as president of a corporation with so little experience and yet he'll probably be elected as president of our country. Now that's scary!
Re: Selection Process
Analyst dod Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:10 PM
Working Drone has a good point. We know Obama can run his mouth but making campaign promises is just noise. They usually aren't kept anyway. What has Obama ever DONE? Anything?
Inappropriate comment
Supervisory HRS DHS Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:35 AM
I thought Ralph polices this site and excludes inappropriate material. Item 3 from "Budget Analyst" is a lie and inappropriately defamatory. It should be returned to sender.
Re: Inappropriate comment
HR specialist (ret) DOI Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:05 AM
I read that as sarcasm, directed at the misinformation some Republicans have been perpetuating, and not intended to insult Obama.
How I Voted
Lead Human Resources Specialist Army Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:39 AM
There is no more important issue than national defense; therefre there was only one logical choice--I voted for McCain/Palin. The second most important issue is the economy. We can't fix that by taking money from those who work to give it to those who won't; again the choice was obvious--I voted for McCain/Palin.
Re: How I Voted
attorney HHS Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:02 PM
Defense is important, which is exactly why McCain is a poor choice. He has vehemently supported the war in Iraq, which as anyone who reads must know by now was a poor decision. We have squandered American lives and a trillion dollars with no gains whatsoever. The war in Afghanistan is going poorly, the Taliban are still around, there are more terrorists and terrorist incidents now then before 9-11, Iraq is a divided country, and we still have no exit strategy. McCain's solution to all this: send even more troops and bomb Iran. Support our troops and vote for Obama.
As for your point on the economoy, Obama's plan will benefit people making under $250,000 per year. McCain's plan will give more tax cuts to the rich. I suppose according to you, people who make less than $250K don't work, and people who make millions from hedge funds and derivitives are the true workers. Thank you for pointing out the true difference in perspectives between Democrats and Republicans.
Re: How I Voted
Editor DoD Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:50 AM
Attorney, HHS: The amount isn't $250,000 it's $200,000. I know it may SEEM that people who make that amount are "rich," but factor in living in the DC area, trying to raise kids and send them to college, giving to charity and dealing with rising costs in everything from food to cars - and suddenly, making $200,000 doesn't seem "rich" at all! Not to mention I'm tired of being made to feel guilty about mine and my husband's "wealth." When we were first married we were both GS-5s and we've worked very hard over the years to attain the current lifestyle we have.
Re: How I Voted
Analyst GSA Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:05 PM
Editor DOD when you and hubby were GS-5s and taking advantage of the tax breaks for that lower income did that make you guys WELFARE cases? Did you even turn it down? But now that you've earned a better LIFESTYLE you seem to have forgotten where you came from. How do you spell S-E-L-F-I-S-H.
Re: How I Voted
Editor DoD Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:26 AM
Analyst, GSA - I have no idea what you are talking about. "Hubby" and I didn't take advantage of any breaks unless they were afforded to any married couple - and never even considered welfare! And you seem to have missed the point that I absolutely don't forget where I came from, I'm saying it took YEARS of hard work to get where we are - we don't live beyond our means, but within them. We EARNED every dollar we made and didn't require the assistance of any government programs to bail us out. Get over yourself - there's no way one can be S-E-L-F-I-S-H with three kids, trust me! Plus, I wasn't even responding to you, by the way ...
Strongly disagree with Obama being Muslim
Civilian Pay Tech GSA Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:42 AM
I'm simply amazed that anyone could believe Obama is a Muslim--beyond that a "secret Muslim." I am flabbergasted beyond words that anyone of more than a 10th grade education could be so duped. What is the evidence? Its so ludicrous that I must stop here--I'm getting ill. But its typical of this type of right-winger comment, i.e., unsubstantiated, gossip, slander and mud. Don't you think our mainstream, "elite" media that these conservative characters complain about, would have found out and reported it? Even Palin doesn't say this.
No Brainer
Counselor USAF Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:51 AM
If you work for the DOD and plan on voting for Obama you will only have yourself to blame when you're out job hunting. It's starting already. The third most useless individual next to Pelosi and Reed is Barney Frank and he's already preparing to cut the military by 25%. This money will go to increase welfare payments and extend unemployment benefits, and their not even in complete control. I can't even imagine what the United Dtates will look like 2 years form now. Who are the idiots who keep voting these characters into back into office. If thats the best they have to nominate, I'm sure glad I don't live in that state.
Re: No Brainer
Electronic Tech DON Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:56 PM
I remember one of the big wigs at the major Defense Contractors where I work as the Navy Tech rep going around telling everyone if we don't vote for Bush we'll be hurting because the Dems will dry up funding. Hog wash. Our Program Office's budget has been gutted. We're barely surviving. I won't be surprised if this ACAT 1 program isn't canceled. Stop the scare tactics and vote with your brain..if all the Bushisms haven't melted it.
Re: No Brainer
Computer Scientist DON Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:02 PM
The one's with no brains are the sheep that follow Obama. Nobody knew anything about him before this campaign started. He has absolutely no qualifications or experience, even Biden admits that. Well, maybe experience as a 'community organizer' for Acorn. If you want a Marxist-Socialist for your next president, then vote for Obama. If he gets his way, he will ruin the economy even more by taxing businesses even higher than they are taxed now (2nd highest in the world), thus increasing unemployment, higher prices on goods, and oursourcing of jobs. Reducing taxes is the way to go, history has proven this. Obama needs a few lessons on economics. But maybe not, the sheep will believe him no matter what. Very scary and dangerous if this man gets elected.
Re: No Brainer
attorney HHS Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:21 PM
Computer Scientist:
The only sheep around here are one like you that spout off the latest Limbaugh and Hannity rantings. 1) You must admit, Obama has SOME experience. No need to exaggerate just to try to make a point. He might not have been in government as long as McCain (who has?), but that may not be a bad thing. 2) Obama is not a Marxist or a Socialist. All he's doing is advocating a progressive tax code, which McCain has done in the past. 3) America does not have the second highest corporate tax rate in the world. When factoring in all the corporate loopholes (pass through accounting, etc.), America's effective tax rate is comparable to other industrial countries. The World Economic Forum’s Global Competitiveness Report shows that America is still the most business-friendly country in the world. 4) Reducing taxes is not the way to go. Where have you been the last 8 years? The rich are richer and the middle class is worse off. Trickle down economics has never worked.
Re: No Brainer
Citizen USA Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:39 PM
"Reducing taxes is not the way to go"
Hey Attorney, if reducing taxes is not the way to go then why do both major candidates say they will do just that? More meaningless campaign promises?
2008 Election
Airspace Manager USAF Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:51 AM
As a Conservative the only canditate is McCain/Palin. I think I'm voting more for Palin than McCain because I like her no-nonsense - middle class approach that most of the people can relate.
Re: 2008 Election
Analyst HUD Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:22 AM
How will you feel when your health benefits are taxed. How will you feel when people you know will have to file bankruptcy when they can not pay their medical . I guess you'll feel great more people lose their jobs, while companies outsource to foreign countries. I am conservative, Republican and a woman and will vote for Obama/Biden.
Who will receive my vote?
Secretary/Stenography Veterans Affairs Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:56 AM
John McCain will receive my vote.
Even Joe Biden at one point said that John McCain is a much better candidate for president than Obama and that he would be honored to serve with McCain. He also said in a democratic candidates' debate that Obama doesn't have enough experience. Now all of a sudden he's wonderful? Louis Farrakhan calls Obama "the messiah". That in and by itself should tell people something about this man, not to mention all the other things that make him a dangerous choice for America.
Re: Who will receive my vote?
Retired Retired Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:25 AM
God bless America? No, no, no. God HELP America, if Obama bin Biden win!
Re: Who will receive my vote?
Editor DoD Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:44 AM
AMEN and well said, Secretary at Veterans Affairs!
Re: Who will receive my vote?
Unhigh on the Food Chain VA Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:55 PM
If you haven't seen the past danger, you certainly won't mind continuing in that path if you select McPain and Ms Giggly. We deserved what we got when Bush was put in office. SMILE
Re: Who will receive my vote?
Analyst DOD Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:20 PM
Attention Unhigh.. Bush isn't running for office.
Voting?
IT Specialist DoD Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:58 AM
Yes, I am voting this year and I am encouraging everyone else to vote. Regardless of the party affiliation or who you wish to support, you need to vote. For folks that live in my voting district, I have offered them rides (no political discussions please) to the polls. This is something we all can do.
We (the People) have a voting record that is a disgrace. Simply put, if you don't vote, don't complain.
As far as who I will vote for, that is simple. I am going to vote for the most conservative of all the bloody communists that are running for office. This year, that is Mr. McCain. I also voted for GHB, RR and Goldwater. I have voted for Democratic candidates (JFK & Jimmy Carter).
I am voting
Program Analyst DoD Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:58 AM
As of today I am voting for McCain/Palin. He's dedicated his whole life to this country, and at a time in his life when he can enjoy it and reap the rewards of his hard work, he's still willing to take on the vigors of the Presidency. For Senator. Obama, I have to go by the following quote (author unknow). "I've learned that it takes years to build up trust, and it only takes suspicion, not proof, to destroy it." I am suspicious.
Re: I am voting
Unhigh on the Food Chain VA Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:56 PM
WOW!... and you are not suspicious of Ms Giggly, who is unproven. Take the blinders off.
Re: I am voting
Emp Navy Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:10 PM
When you deliberately and incorrectly refer to someone by anything other than their real name, you reflect a tremendous lack of credibility for anything valid you might have to say, and it shows the inability to give an educated argument. That's as nice as I can put it.
Re: I am voting
Programmer TSO Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:53 PM
Unhigh in the VA, knock off the juvenile name calling, that sort of crap is really pathetic. Give us something worth reading instead.
Presidential Candidate
Admin Assistant DoD Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:14 AM
I will be voting for John McCain. Obama scars me with hie socialist tendancies.
Vote for President
Labor Relations Specialist Treasury Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:15 AM
Obama will get my vote. I strongly feel that Obama and Biden will do a far superior job for our country than McCain and Palin.
Vote
Presentence Investigation Unit Assistant U S Probation Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:27 AM
I will be voting for Obama/Biden, that's the only intelligent choice.
Staunch Independent
Secretary DFAS Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:28 AM
McCain & Palin have my vote. I could never bring myself to vote for Obama. What has become of our country. How fast people have forgotten 9-11. We won't have to worry about the economy if we are all dead from terrorists, that will have no problem getting to us. We have gotten so greedy over money that we have forgotten our security problems in this country.
Vote
Engineer DoD Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:00 AM
I am an independent and considered both candidates and find I disagree with both on a number of issues. However, I will be voting for Obama. McCain's hiring of Rove associates, selecting Palin (part time mayor of a town of less than 5000 who brought in an administrator to perform day to day functions, supported bridge to nowhere before she was against it, etc) and the number of vile and untrue emails attacking Obama that I have recieved from Republican friends has convinced me that McCain is too closely linked to Bush' ethics and policies (which I oppose) and at age 72 selecting Palin as VP clinched which candidate was to receive my vote. I think Obama presents the best chance to get a bipartisan answer to the problems we face.
Obama For President? You've GOT to be KIDDING!!
Air Traffic Controller FAA Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:13 AM
Obama SCARES me! How can you vote to put a man into the position of Commander in Chief who won't even acknowledge or say a pledge of allegiance to the flag now?!?!?? Plus, to do everything that he's promised to do, he will have to raise taxes astronomically. If he's elected, you'd better enjoy that wealth redistribution check when you get it, because you're going to be giving it all back - PLUS some - in new taxes shortly!
Re: Obama For President? You've GOT to be KIDDING!!
Engineer FAA Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:46 PM
For my own edification, when precisely did Obama say he wouldn't pledge allegiance to the flag.
Please, don't quote Rush L or the Drudge report for this item. something factual would be sufficient.
Here is the problem with the party systems, by the way, and the average American voter. The tendency to believe either-or is killing us. Obama is either God or satan. He's good or bad. No middle road.
Voters hear their party say something like the Obama quote, and will repeat it as absolute truth without even verifying if it's true - just like the "attacked McCain supporter at the ATM story". All made up, but repeated by "authority" (Matt Drudge, et al) so it must be correct.
Please American voters, please. Read the facts (there are a dozen good fact checker sites out there) and don't let Rush/Air America decide for you.
Re: Obama For President? You've GOT to be KIDDING!!
Unhigh on the Food Chain VA Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:58 PM
Why should he be "pledging" to a Flag. He should be putting his trust in GOD and so should you!
Re: Obama For President? You've GOT to be KIDDING!!
Procurement Analyst Navy Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:03 AM
What scares me are people who make a decision that can affect our lives (i.e. voting for President) without basing that decision on the facts. If you're willing to parrot lies and distortions as a basis for your vote then we're in even worse shape than I thought we were. Check out your facts before you make such insidious comments. Not only does Senator Obama pledge allegiance to the flag but there's even a video of him leading the pledge in the U.S. Senate!
Executive Experience
GS-14 Retired DHS USCG Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:14 AM
Since so many are willing to question the experience of Mrs. Palin, who is a state govenor, I'd like to ask a question?
WHAT HAS OBAMA EVER DONE. I have never seen that he has accomplished anything. He's been campaigning for president since he was elected to congress. He's missed many of the votes or voted present on controversial issues. He came up through Chicago machine politics. He's an extreme socialist/marxist.
Paid for by big money from folks like George Soros.
Sorry folks, you've been sold a bill of goods by big money and media glitz. Unfortunately we are all going to pay for it. The crazy three: Obama, Pelosi and Reid, the new three stooges.
Re: Executive Experience
Education Program Specialist Education Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:04 AM
Obama has spent the equivelant of one school year (180/185 days depending on the state/district) in office before hitting the road to the presidency. What other business would make someone who had worked for them 180 days the CEO? You can't even get promoted after that much time! He hasn't even been around long enough to learn all the players so how is he going to fill his cabinet with experienced qualified personnel? And how did he afford an Ivy league education if he was raised by a single mother and grandparents who weren't rich? Who is he beholding to for that?
Re: Executive Experience
Retired Retired Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:54 PM
Speaking of appointments... During my 36+ years with Uncle Sam, the worst appointees were always during the Democrat administrations. Always. They were always in it for themselves, as opposed to the Republicans, who seemed to be in it for the greater good. The Repubs mostly left high paying sucessful carreers to "serve" and the Dems seemed to go to jail after they resigned under a cloud of suspicion.
Re: Executive Experience
Procurement Analyst Navy Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:35 AM
Qualifications of candidate #1
1. 5 times elected to the U.S. House of Representatives
2. Served as Minister to Russia
3. 12 years in the U.S. Senate
4. Served as Secretary of State
5. Served as Minister to Great Britain
Qualifications of candidate #2
1. Eight years in the Illinois state legislature
2. One term in the U.S. House of Representatives
Candidate #1 is James Buchanan who became the 15th President of the U.S. (1857-1861)
Candidate #2 is Abraham Lincoln who became the 16th President of the U.S. (1861-1865)
Who was the better Commander-in-Chief?
Buchanan- up until "W" considered by many historians as the worst President.
Lincoln - considered as one of, if not the best, President we've ever had.
Lesson Learned - Judgment trumps experience!!!
Re: Executive Experience
Computer Scientist DON Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:54 PM
If a surgeon with a great deal of experience operated on you and made a mistake, would you purposely look for another one with little or no experience? I think not. If I were to apply for an important supervisory or technical or management job, and said I had little or no experience, but that I had good judgement, do you think I would be hired? I would be laughed out of the office.
Obama is no Lincoln.
Election
Auditor GS 13 Justice Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:16 AM
Voted for none of the above. Left it blank. Neither are acceptable.
DOD is afraid of...
ATCS FAA Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:29 AM
First, OBAMA is NOT against defense of nation...just stupid, unfounded wars. (Let's not forget the Wienberger and Powell doctrines)
Second, if we took the capabilities of the DOD and transformed just a fraction of it's mega-structure into developing technology to fight against our need to import oil, we would be much more secure. That would offset the clear fear of job security disguised as national security. (see USAF Counselor)
Third, IMHO, war based economies are doomed to failure.
I think our military has to be between the "mean lean" machine and the current war levels. I also think that we can be MUCH smarter in how DOD (or any other government organization) spends money.
Vote
Program Analyst OPM Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:57 AM
McCain/Palin
Get out and VOTE!
Telecomm. Engineer DoD Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:59 AM
This election, I'm voting for Obama. I think Obama has a well thought-out strategy on how to get this country back on its feet. He also is more collected and calm whenever he speaks. McCain seems to not have it all together. Alot of the things he would like to do just don't make good sense. Although Palin was governor and seems to have leadership experience, it doesn't seem evident whenever she speaks at the rallys. Also, I think McCain's mudslinging is deplorable! The Obama campaign has done a little, but not to the extent McCain has. Maybe he should stick to telling what he IS going to do, instead of what Obama isn't. VOTE OBAMA!!!
Re: Get out and VOTE!
Retired Retired Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:24 PM
Do you suppose the reason Obama hasn't turned negative on McCain could be that McCain isn't the easy target Obama is?
Don't you think if McCain had associated with evil people, Obama would have exploited it by now?
But McCain is clean (and a true hero) while Obama is a snake.
Re: Get out and VOTE!
Telecomm. Engineer DoD Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:41 AM
This just goes to show you how much people are like their candidates... "Do you suppose the reason Obama hasn't turned negative on McCain could be that McCain isn't the easy target Obama is?" Let's do some mudslinging!
But if I would have to answer, give me something harder, because McCain is an easier target. Let's see ... McCain winning the election = 4 more years of BUSHism.
Re: Get out and VOTE!
Programmer TSO Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:16 AM
"The Obama campaign has done a little, but not to the extent McCain has"
You're wrong.
Re: Get out and VOTE!
Telecomm. Engineer DoD Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:07 AM
Who's Wrong? Get your facts straight ... check out Factcheck.org. There are more false statements made by McCain then there are by Obama.
Re: Get out and VOTE!
Programmer TSO Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:14 PM
Telecomm, just because it's on the internet doesn't make it true. Open your eyes and ears to the real world and you'll see an incredible amount of negative campaigning coming out of the Democrat camp.
Re: Get out and VOTE!
Telecomm. Engineer DoD Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:19 AM
Programmer get your head outta the code and look at Factcheck.org's references. I mentioned them as a basis for finding the facts, not for a sole source.
As I am opening my eyes and ears, should I also look for a new job if the Republicans win, because there won't be a budget left to pay me with the huge deficit they will incur.
Re: Get out and VOTE!
Computer Scientist DON Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:06 PM
Telecomm Engineer - "McCain winning the election = 4 more years of BUSHism." ?? What are you talking about? Why don't YOU get your facts straight? Check the record, and you'll find out that since Obama became senator, he has voted with Bush more often than McCain has.
And if you have been paying attention to the news, you'll know that on numerous occasions Obama has stated that he wants to redistribute the wealth, spread the wealth around. The last time I checked, that is a basic principal of Socialism, if not Marxism. Seems anti-American to me ......
Obama's Economic Plan Will Destroy The Economy
Attorney Commerce Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:01 PM
I'm voting for McCain (or better stated--I'm voting against Obama). Obama's economic plan will destroy the economy. Obama will raise taxes (by allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire) on middle income earners. Also, he wants to overtax those making over $250,000. By doing that, small business owners will scale back to avoid that threshold and jobs will become more scarce. Those businesses that don't scale back will just pass the additional cost of doing business along to the consumers. Then there will be some folks who won't start new businesses to begin with. What's the incentive if 60 to 70 percent of every dollar earned is going to be taxed? Obama's plan destroys initiative. John McCain may by imperfect, but he gets a couple of things right. One of the main reasons our jobs have left the country is due to overtaxation. Cutting taxes for all, including corporate tax rates, will make it less likely that jobs will be sent overseas.
Re: Obama's Economic Plan Will Destroy The Economy
Engineer FAA Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:52 PM
Question. How many Small Businesses in this country net over $250,000 of taxable income?
Answer: Less than 10%
Remember, we're talking net income, not gross. Every small business owner I know has enough expenses, write offs and tax loop holes to bring their bottom lines way below $250,000.
This is small business, by the way as defined by the US govt Small Business Administration (sba size standard website).
Again, as I told my brother the FAA controller in their post, do some research first before believing what MSNBC or FOX news tells you.
(I support neither Obama or McCain - and no, I'm not a Nader person either)
Re: Obama's Economic Plan Will Destroy The Economy
Education Program Specialist Education Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:12 AM
The tax issue is only one issue that may or may not effect small businesses. Obama/Clinton health care plan will adversely effect small businesses even more so.
Redistribution of the wealth will likely not effect small business it will just effect the individual taxpayer and it isn't going to be just the "fat cats" either. Has anyone read any of his "latest" economic plans? He keeps changing his positions to suit his critics until he gets elected and then around April 20th everyone will be astounded with what the country ends up with after the election. This man has never served his country's interests only his backers interests and his own. Why is everyone willing to look the other way on this guy? Clearly the media wants him to be elected otherwise why would they be focusing on stuff that really doesn't matter?
POTUS vote
Analyst IRS Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:27 PM
McCain-Palin will receive my vote. But I'm not excited about either one. It's a poor choice this year. I voted for Obama in my state's primary but the more I thought about it, the less I want him as POTUS. He is just as qualified to be President as Palin is. Their resumes are equally thin.
But the real problem is not with these two candidates. The fault is with us as a people. The candidates are a symptom. Both of these men will expand the power of the federal government over our lives and reduce the choices we have as citizens of a supposedly free republic. As a nation we want the government to take care of us. We don't seem to want to stand on our own two feet. That is not what the founders worked hard to bring forth into this world. We have become a small jealous people.
There is a saying "You get the government you deserve." Hopefully we will come to our senses and someone will arise in the next 4 years and make the case for personal liberty under limited government.
2008 election
Fiscal Management Analyst SSA Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:40 PM
I'm voting for Barack Obama... because I want my country back.
As a Marine and Law Enforcement Officer I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, therefore I can not vote for Obama!
Re: Presidential Vote
ATCS FAA Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:42 PM
CBP Officer,
Are you serious, Bush and the republicans have gone against the constitution numerous times, Illegal wire tapping comes to mind. Wake up
Re: Presidential Vote
Telecomm. Engineer DoD Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:46 AM
This just shows how corrupt our law enforcement is, just like BUSH, he doesn't see the wiretapping as illegal. He sees it as a way to "protect our country" from terrorism. But if you take away our freedoms and invade our privacies, then what are you fighting for?
Re: Presidential Vote
Emp Navy Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:58 AM
So, when the constitution was written wiretapping had been invented? Hmmmmmm........
Re: Presidential Vote
Telecomm. Engineer DoD Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:08 AM
So your saying it's ok? Hmmmmmmmm.
Re: Presidential Vote
Emp Navy Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:10 AM
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with wiretapping. I just wonder where in the Constitution it refers to wiretapping.
Both parties have gone against the Constitution, but the Democrats have done it more often.
Obama is an avowed Socialist (yes I said avowed Socialist (do your research)) and Socialism is a direct assault on the Constitution!
Wake up!
Re: Presidential Vote
Telecomm. Engineer DoD Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:33 AM
Where did you get your FACTS, CBP Officer? From all of McCain's negative ads? Seem you need to be the one that needs to do the research. The only instance of Obama being a socialist I found, was either from the McCain camp or supports of McCain. So maybe you're the one asleep at the wheel ... or would that be asleep at the border?
As an Engineer, I expected you to be able to conduct real research, I guess I was wrong. On the other hand, as a typical liberal, your resort to personal attacks when you become confronted with the truth!
Start your research in Chicago (about 1995), when Obama began his career in left wing politics. Research the New Party and The Democratic Socialist Party of America. BTW research does not just mean Google. Try heading to a library and researching newspapers and periodicals also!
"To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists."
From ‘The Audacity Of Hope:
“I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction"
From Dreams of My Father:
”I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother’s race.”
Re: Presidential Vote
Ive Voted US Forest Service Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:34 PM
CPB Officer -- It's unfair to quote out of context...
The time period Obama was writing about in your first quote from "Dreams of My Father" was when he was a freshman in college -- a time when it it typical for young people to experiment and learn. He also says, when writing about that time period:
"...In fact, that whole first year seemed like on long lie, me spending my energy running around in circles...."
Sounds like a typical college freshman to me.
The "I found a solace..." quote. Obama did not say that -- ever. The quote comes from an analysis and interpretation of the book by a conservative author (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/517/)
Will continue in another post, since I'm out of room.
Re: Presidential Vote
Ive Voted US Forest Service Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:47 PM
Second response to CBP Officer:
"... he wrote that when he speaks to audiences of Pakistani and Arab-Americans, their message to him has a more urgent quality.
'(T)he stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'
Obama doesn't mention Muslims here at all; he's clearly talking about U.S. citizens of Arab and Pakistani descent."
(http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/518/)
It would be good if folks did not quote emails without checking facts first.
I never sounded like that and neither did any of my friends!
Sounds more like a college socialist and has nothing to do with your freshman year!
He was a socialist then and he is still a socialist!
Lesser of 2 evils
DoD Civ AF Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:47 PM
I'm voting for McCain.
I really don't like either one, but I feel McCain is the better of the 2. Voting present in congress is not my idea of a leader that will be deciding on issues.
According to Fact Check Obama let Bush have his way (by voting yeah on the issue and letting it pass) 1 to 2 times more than McCain. Yet he contredicts his own record.
Re: Lesser of 2 evils
Telecomm. Engineer DoD Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:26 AM
Obviously you didn't get ALL the facts ...
THE FACTS (From Factcheck.org, Boston Globe, NY Times, Chicago Tribune): Obama acknowledges that over nearly eight years in the Illinois Senate, he voted "present" 129 times. That was out of roughly 4,000 votes he cast , so those "presents" amounted to about one of every 31 votes in his legislative career (or 3% if you do the math).
Illinois legislators often vote "present" and for a wide variety of reasons. Sometimes blocs of lawmakers do it as a protest in some dispute over rules and procedures. Obama was often joined in his "present" votes by 10 or 20 other senators.
In other cases, lawmakers do it to signal objections to the details of a measure that they support in principle. They also use "present" votes as strategic moves to defeat legislation or, of course, simply to avoid taking a firm position.
Also what "issue" are you referring to? Is it one, two, three? How many did he vote against? Ten, Twenty, Thirty?
Re: Lesser of 2 evils
Analyst dod Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:31 PM
If you think you'll get unbiased information from the Boston Globe and the New York Times then you need way more help than anybody here can give you.
Re: Lesser of 2 evils
Telecomm. Engineer DoD Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:32 AM
So would it be better to take your word for it Analyst?
Re: Lesser of 2 evils
IT Spec dod Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:00 PM
Hey engineer, the analyst never mentioned believing him or her.
The point was that the NYT and Boston Globe which you are using as sources of information are quite biased. That point is obvious, it's too bad you couldn't figure it out.
The most important election in the history of our
Program Manager DOD Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:09 PM
Unite the races by ending the stereotypes (on BOTH sides) which will help unite the country. We need fiscal responsibility, re-investment 'in' & revive 'where' this GREAT country's greatest assets lie- in its people. Restore our integrity from within and let it be the beacon it once was, and let it shine internationally. A man devoted to protecting our civil rights compared to one who protects the extremely wealthy and whose mantra is win or die trying to win a war that should never been fought in the first place? We've given more people more reason to hate us; and for what? To satisfy the ego of our current mistake, the spoiled rich kid who dodged war himself, we are STILL at war!?! And, people are thinking to vote for more of the same? Huh? This year I switched from republican to Democrat; let us now put people to work rebuilding our nation and in their stead let us put the lobbyists in the unemployment line. BTW I am a disabled veteran- I do know senseless waste when I see
I voted for Obama
Chief, Influence Operations Department of Air Force Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:22 PM
I voted for Barack Obama because I believe it is time for change. Obama supporters are more diverse, and I believe his policies will put America back on the right track. McCain is shaky on all the issues and continues to change by the day plus his VP pick is NOT qualified to be president, and that says a lot about his decision making, besides, Republicans have never cared about the common people. I'm also afraid he will probably get us in another war.
None of the Above
Reformed Conservative DFAS Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:25 PM
McCain: sick and elderly, which may be why he seems a little scattered
Palin: When I noticed she was dragging her little girl around to all those debates, long after a child that age should be in bed, I concluded she was all sizzle and no steak
Obama: I think he would be a good leader, but I can't vote for a candidate who favors partial-birth abortion
Biden: Too close to the credit card companies
So I'll pick a 3rd-party candidate; if enough of us do this, maybe someday there will be a viable 3rd party.
Constitution
Asset Manager GSA Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:23 PM
Today I heard a 2001 Obama interview wherein he elaborates that the Founding Fathers had flawed in the writing of the Constitution. If elected President, Obama will restructure the Constitution of the US to suit his Agenda. We, as a Nation cannot allow that to happen. I hope that every legally registered voter will think long and hard before they cast their voites. In this time of economic fall-out, we cannot afford a spend-and-tax Leader, especially one that wants to "restructure" the Constitution and allow the Supreme Court the power to Legislate from the bench!
Re: Constitution
Computer Specialist US Forest Service Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:51 PM
Oh my goodness -- you can't be serious. The President can't, even if he or she wanted to, "restructure the Constitution of the US to suit his Agenda." The only way the Constitution can be changed is by amendment. Amendments can be proposed only by Congress or by a national convention requested by the states. And even then it has to be ratified, which isn't likely.
Apparently you're referring to judicial review which allows courts to examine the constitutionality of legislation. Even if Obama is elected and does appoint some Supreme Court judges, there is no guarantee they'll rule the way he'd prefer.
As a scholar in constitutional law, I'm sure Obama did have some criticisms of the way the Constitution was written. That doesn't mean he wants to or is able to "restructure" it.
Re: Constitution
Retired OPM Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:36 PM
Of course he can't do it all by himself. Almost everything these two guys are "promising" can only happen with concurrence by others (Congress, courts, US!).
The pertinent question should be this: Do we want a President who WOULD, if he could, restructure the Constitution?
Not this voter!
Re: Constitution
HR Consultant been there/done that Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:23 AM
Unfortunately, like being a parent, there are few qualifications and training to be a voter. Amending the constitutution is a difficult, two-step process, generally involving a two-thirds vote by both Houses of Congress and ratification by 3/4 of state legislatures. It has happened 27 times. Little things like the bill of rights and 13th and 14th amendments. But apparently you two stalwart McCain supporters oppose any amendments to the Constitution ans would like to undo them all.
Re: Constitution
HR specialist (ret) DOI Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:11 AM
Much as I hate to admit it, the Constitution is not a perfect document. It's most obvious flaws were recognizing slavery and limiting the right to vote to white males. It's been tweaked over the years, and most of those changes have improved it. So I see nothing wrong or unpatriotic about someone who sees room for more even improvement.
Who'll Receive My Vote
retired DoD Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:42 PM
Sen. Obama is being accused of being a Socialist by Republicans, and so he is at least that. However, Sen. McCain has supported the Bush administration's expansion with Big Government into practically every aspect of our lives - that's also Socialism.
With either Obama or McCain as president, 20 million illegal aliens will receive amnesty, and who knows what other perks, if there are any left to be given out. Obama will tax and spend us into oblivion; if McCain follows up with recent bailouts of big businesses, and other Bush's programs, he will do likewise. It seems to me we are well on the way to Socialism already, if not fascism.
For this life-long Republican, my vote now goes to the Libertarian party, and against every incumbent with very few exceptions. The only way we'll ever have real change, and return to the Constitution, is if we turn out most all the entrenched bums in Congress who are complicit in creating the current mess in which we find ourselves.
WHO WILL GET MY VOTE
Patient Business Assistant VA Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:41 PM
Obama- Attny/ Commerce: Greed is why jobs left the US. Why pay people 5$ an hr. here, when you can get it done in a 3rd world country w/practically slave labor, in a country run by communism? Sec/Defas: Sounds like someone needs a 9/11 hug. Obama is not a terrorist nor linked w/Alqueida who takes full blame for the bombings, check engineer's definition of terrorism, it's on point. Bush's fear tactics were closser to terrorism ever done. Sec/Steno: Even black people have stopped listening to Farakahn, (since he helped oust Mr X) it's scary that you look for retribution in his words to justify your choice. Is blaming a man for something that happened when he was 8 yrs old fair? Around that time I'm sure Obama's main concern was what's on TV and what girl likes him at school. Last to all: Why is Obama protrayed as un-american? He didn't petition congress to ceceed from the US (like Palin), and surely he believes all americans are pro-american, unlike Ms. Sarah. Check it.
My Vote
Retired government employee Treasury Dept. Mon Oct 27, 2008 4:17 PM
Obama is the only person who is qualified to be the best President and he has my vote. I can imagine what the world will be like when Obama becomes President. I hope to see the economy growing along with prosperity and peace returning to this country. Obama supporters as well most foreign countries are awaiting Obama election to the highest office of this great America. He will do a great job in carrying out the Presidential duties. Obama Obama you are the best.
Re: My Vote
Retired Engineer EPA Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:52 PM
Oh, puhleeze...
Budget Analist
USPS Retired Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:50 PM
Hay genius McBush wants to tax your health benefits.How do you figure that to be tax reduction dunce.
Congratulations
Retired Supervisor DoD Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:09 PM
I do have to congratulate the people leaving posts here. Normally the people on the left just engage in name calling without any facts to support their views while the people on the right tend to have more well thought out intelligent opinions. However, on this site there has been little name calling from the people on the left. They still don’t have any facts to support their opinion, but at least they aren’t just engaged in name calling. Good for you. That is a definite improvement.
What has he actually done?
IT Spec dod Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:16 PM
Obama supporters need to ask themselves the following question:
What has Obama actually done?
He makes good speeches, he makes flashy campaign promises but history will show that campaign promises are routinely not kept.
The world is filled with politicians who are talented at running their mouths, but talk is cheap.. What has he actually done?
Obama is my man!
Contract Specialist VA Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:21 PM
As a lifetime Fed, I have to vote for Obama. I have no dobut that McCain would stick it to us if he were to be elected.
Who will receive my vote for President of the USA
QAS DCMA Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:58 AM
I will vote for McCain/Palin and hope some how they win because I fear what a socialist like Obama will attempt to do to impliment his crazy ideas. I am so astonished that people who claim to be so enlightened and intelligent haven't read the facts and history about this walking piece of doodoo. As a resident of Cook county Illinois we have seen what BHO is all about and we can only conclude that the reason anyone who is non-white would vote for him is because of his skin color. Those whites who are voting for him are doing so out of a feeling of quilt or stupity or hate for Bush. Time to pull your head of the dark spot and just look at both candidates history. If anyone did an honest assessment of all available facts it is obvious that you should vote for McCain. Sadly I fear BHO will win and we will need a major toilet flushing in 2012 to clean all the crap out.
Re: Who will receive my vote for President of the USA
HR specialist (ret) DOI Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:15 AM
Congratulations! You've just cancelled out the posting by the retired DoD supervisor.
Re: Who will receive my vote for President of the USA
Analyst HUD Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:17 AM
It has been said that the best and the brightest are work in the private sector. Unfornately your remarks have proven that to be true.
Who for president
N/A N/A Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:56 AM
Ultimately, although I'm worried about things line erosion of our civil liberties in the name of security, I will be able to live and probably still have a job under either president. So I will be making my decision based on who will help those citizens 'on the margin' in these tough times.
For example, access to some basic, limited heathcare really is important and it's a cruel joke to offer a tax credit to pay for it to someone who doesn't have a job and therefore pays no taxes to credit.
PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION
CBPO CBP Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:58 AM
This is the most important election of my lifetime, arguably in the history of the USA. Democracy itself may be threatened. While both candidates are not the best choices for President, I do believe that the survival of America itself and the freedoms for which she represents are more important than if federal workers get a bigger wage increase, or better union involvement, or better working conditions. While all of these are to be sure, important matters of and by themselves. There is no more important matter than that of preserving the USA and all of the underlying freedoms for which we have known, loved and fought for.
God Bless the US and may she remain the United States of America
Point of clarification
Education Program Specialist Education Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:45 AM
If I'm a white person and I vote for a white candidate when the other candidate is black I'm considered racist but if black voters vote for the black candidate they are not considered racists? Perhaps rather than looking to race to make up your mind you should consider experience and detail of plans for the future. Keep in mind that this is a captialist country and redistribution of the wealth is a Marxist idea aka socialism/communism. Think about your paycheck being redistributed to people who have nothing wrong with them but are unwilling to go to work and they had the same opportunities that you did to do what you did with your life and chose to take a hand out instead of a hand up.
Re: Point of clarification
Procurement Analyst Navy Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:22 AM
I'm so tired of people throwing labels around. In the first place no one would accuse you of being racist if you're white and voting for McCain if you can articulate the reasons why. People are suspected of racism when rather than listing why they are for McCain they just say they can't vote for Obama because (1) he's a muslim (2) he's unpatriotic (3) there's just something about him, etc. etc. etc. They probably don't even admit to themselves what the real reason is! As far as "socialism" goes, wake up. Social Security is a socialistic program, the progressive tax system that we have is socialistic in nature.
Re: Point of clarification
Computer Scientist DON Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:24 PM
Yes, this country is socialistic to some degree, but Obama would take this to a further extreme, and we can't afford that. In the progressive tax system, at least the money goes to pay for government functions, but Obama wants to directly redistribute the wealth from the 'rich' to the 'poor'.
7 more days
HR USDA Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:47 AM
Both parties should be ashame of theirself. This would have been a great time for a strong third party candidate. Just another four years of the same old party infighting.
Re: 7 more days
DoD Civ AF Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:15 AM
Amen. Wish we did have someone else to choose, besides the 2.
Who Will Receive Your Vote for President of the Un
Federal Employee FAA Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:53 AM
For the first time in a long time, America has been devastated so badly that voters have resorted to choosing their leaders based on issues instead of smears, hype and bumper-sticker slogans. Maybe there is hope, after all.
Re: Who Will Receive Your Vote for President of the Un
DoD Civ AF Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:16 AM
I only choose by issues and issues only.
Who will my vote for President
Program Manager U.S. EPA Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:35 AM
I will vote for John McCain because I believe the government cannot do a better job of spending MY MONEY than I would. I think when you spread the wealth around it is not good for everybody and it is not Patriotic! Because terrorists should NOT be allowed to have trials in American courts. Because English should be the official language of the United States. Because having a domestic terrorist like Bill Ayers as a close friend is NOT a good thing. Because illegal aliens do not deserve all the rights of ordinary Americans plus some additional rights Americans do not have. Because groups like ACORN, who register felons, drug addicts, wino’s, homeless drifters, illegal aliens, dead people, children, fictional Disney characters, etc. makes my vote count less.
basic quals/education, character
Rangeland Mgt. Specialist USDA Forest Service Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:16 AM
VOTED:Obama/Biden. Basics: Barack has grown up with most odds against him to be an average working citizen. Yet he has been so focused, determined and responsible his accomplishments blow the doors off the rest of us--an education in Political Science, straight A's. his nature, choosing to volunteer in communities vs heading to wall street to line his pockets, responsible husband/father and he is really cute (genuine) about it. He chose Biden who has the education & as much 'time/ experience' as McCain. Delayed his career to care for his sons following a tragedy. There are alot of guys who would have just turned it over to their mom or anyone else and bailed. //Then you have McCain/Palin, yes, they are both great individuals, no dought. It's too bad McCain wasn't able to get the presidency in '00 or '04. His experience, war his nature to fight. Without a degree, how many IOU's has he aquired to develop his political career..? Palin, President? Ten yrs. maybe. Now, NO, Just Say NO!
2008 Presidential Election
Adj. Officer DHS Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:07 PM
I had to vote for McCain, not out of any great love I have for the man, but more the fear I have of what an Obama Presidency can do to this nation. I personally think an Obama Presidency will be disastrous! Yes, Bush erred in his Presidency, but I do not see him as the monster responsible for all the ills of this nation; but then the "Bush Bashers" are willing tools of the Left and those who control it for their own self serving agendas.
If Obama is elected, I just hope this nation will survive his Presidency, for all I see is Doom. For those who do not agree, that is your privilege, but do not start calling me names simply because I have expressed mine.
national security and economic stability
Joe the Lawyer ED Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:05 PM
Obama is the clear choice to manage the current economic crisis and avoid even more reckless military adventurism. I've never in my life been so sure and so excited about my vote.
Re: national security and economic stability
Analyst dod Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:21 PM
No he's not. He's never run anything except his mouth. Do we really want a rookie as the President? The only thing he can claim are campaign promises and we all know how well those are kept.
Re: national security and economic stability
Joe the Lawyer ED Wed Oct 29, 2008 2:46 PM
I'd take a smart, thoughtful rookie over a reckless, unprincipled old man any day. McCain/Palin have suggested military action against Iran and Russia and admit ignorance/disinterest in economic policy. The country is demanding a clear change of course and wants a smart, steady, careful and positive leader. The unnecessarily overextension of our military that McCain has aggressively supported has left us dangerously unable to respond to real crises in the future.
Re: national security and economic stability
Analyst dod Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:07 PM
Joe, your inference that McCain is unprincipled is wrong. You can't demonstrate otherwise. In your assessment of the war effort it's interesting that you forgot to mention that McCain disagreed with the way the war was being conducted numerous times. Don't omit stuff just because it doesn't jive with your political opinion.
My choice for President of the US
Paralegal SSA/Retired Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:07 PM
I will vote for Barack Obama for President, not because he is black or that the election of a black man will be historic, but because he is by far the best qualified choice. His vice-presidential choice is also very comforting. If anything should happen to Obama, God forbid, Biden could step into the Presidential shoes and be a very competent president in his place. Together, Obama and Biden make a wonderful team for the Democratic ticket for President and Vice President.
Re: My choice for President of the US
IT Spec dod Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:26 AM
Biden can't keep ridiculous things from coming out of his mouth on the campaign trail, can you imagine the bonehead stuff he'd pull with the pressure of the presidency on him? Obama is unproven, he has no track record except for promises on the campaign trail. Just because he can make good speeches doesn't cut it. The world is filled with politicians who can talk the talk, he's never walked the walk about anything.
President
Engineer DCMA Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:37 AM
I'm voting for John McCain because I feel he is the best of the two to run this country. I must admit, I don't like some of the programs he says he'll try to get through but all-in-all he has the experience, he will defend this country, bring the work back home from overseas, and help the middle class so the U.S. can get back on it's feet again. All I've heard from Obama is empty words and he promises everything that we know will not happen. That's my opinion, thank you for your time.
VOTED!
SPEC VHA Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:54 AM
TO: Asset Manager
GSA
You forget that GWB frequently used his veto power to manipulate the lawmakers. His fellow Republicans backed him.
Quite frankly, I'm sick to death of the Republican party and the way they've wrecked this country. Those of you who support them share the blame, in my opinion.
SELECTION PROCESS
SPEC VHA Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:12 AM
Diversity Manager
DOL
You claim that Palin is so experienced and would make such a good President. Answer this..........
If she is so all knowing and great, why is her teenage daughter pregnant and unmarried? Why did OLD Sarah, at age 44 or better give birth? Her son has Down's Syndrome, which is known to be caused by child birth after 35. He's just beginning his life of dependence on others because of her lack of good judgement. When she's gone from this world, he could quite possibly still be here, having to depend upon others for his needs.
Let's talk about judgment and family values. What a joke!!!!!!
She calls herself a "soccer mom" first. An obvious lie. This woman has five children and should be spending more of her time raising those she brought into the world! She has absolutely no business in the White House.
Re: SELECTION PROCESS
peon usda Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:00 AM
Diversity Manager?
So, women with children shouldn't work?
Re: SELECTION PROCESS
Reformed Conservative DFAS Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:31 AM
I don't think it's fair to criticize Sarah Palin because her 17-year-old is pregnant. You can't watch teenagers every minute. Nor do I think it is fair to criticize her because her son has Down syndrome. I am pretty sure his Down syndrome was not her idea. That criticism is not only petty, it's just plain stupid.
Re: SELECTION PROCESS
Locutus Borg Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:02 PM
SPEC VHA, you are a font of misinformation. Down's Syndrome is not "known to be caused by child birth after 35." It is caused by an extra chromosome. While an older woman runs a higher risk of having a Down's Syndrome child, age in and of itself is not the cause. I know somebody who was only 20 when she gave birth to a Down's Syndrome child. Many of these children grow up to be high-functioning individuals able to live independent, meaningful lives. Who are you to judge?
Having a pregnant teenage daughter is not a reflection on Palin's character. It happens to many teenagers at all levels of income and any other demographic. Get over it.
And why shouldn't a woman work, no matter how many children she has? Your statement reflects an ignorant, sexist attitude that is fortunately dying out among people of education and intellect.
Re: Who will receive my vote?
SPEC VHA Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:19 AM
Analyst
DOD
Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:20 PM
Attention Unhigh.. Bush isn't running for office.
Maybe Bush isn't running for office, but MCBUSH is.
Obama will win, thank goodness. Time to wipe the slate clean and start fresh.
Re: Re: Who will receive my vote?
Analyst dod Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:34 PM
McCain and Bush disagreed on the conduct of the war frequently yet our friend from the VHA thinks they're the same.
McCain and Bush disagree on Immigration yet our friend from the VHA thinks they're the same.
McCain and Bush disagree on Terrorist interrogation yet our friend from the VHA thinks they're the same.
and on.. and on. Our friend from the VHA needs to stop listening to left wing talking points. That worn out McBush line is getting old.. and is still wrong.
Regime change
HR Advisor NOAA Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:41 AM
I have cast my vote for Obama and urge patriotic Americans to do the same. The USA goes around the world fomenting wars and regime change in the name of democracy, so time to practice the same here. Enough of the Current Occupant/Unitary Executive's neocon psuedo fascism.
What I can't believe is that all these years of working as a Civil Servant, I have been surrounded by so many people who display so much ignorance. All this vapid chatter about Obama being somehow less American than the other folks, McCain being a war hero, Palin being Joey the Six-Pack Mayor, etc, etc. Concentrate on the message and actions of the candidates my fellow Feds. McCain is the past, the deregulator, the cause of our economic meltdown, the promise of Bush's third term. Away with all this ruin and corruption.
Re: Regime change
Analyst dod Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:50 PM
Speaking of actions HR Advisor, why don't you tell us what Obama has ever done?
DISGUSTED WITH ALL OF YOUR MUDSLINGING!!!!
Engineer USDA Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:42 AM
Almost all of you posting on here DISGUST me with your reasons for voting AGAINST a candidate (along with most Americans)! Especially those "national security" reasons which are just fear-induced opinions caused by allegations spoon-fed to you by various sources. You pansies want massive militaries and budgets to protect you from "terrorists" and then hypocritically complain about not wanting big government? The "not enough experience" argument is silly and pathetic unless you're happy with the way our government has operated for the last half century. I'm not! Too much bureaucracy and waste... How many of you actually know anything about other candidates' platforms NOT from the Rep or Dem parties? How about from candidates' own mouths and IN CONTEXT, not what you heard from the pundits on tv and radio??? You've all abandoned your civic duties as responsible voters and now are media pawns. YOU ARE WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE USA AND I AM SCARED OF YOUR LAZINESS AND INCOMPETENCE!!!!
Re: DISGUSTED WITH ALL OF YOUR MUDSLINGING!!!!
everyman dod Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:21 AM
AMEN!!
So what
Emp Navy Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:53 PM
I'll vote for McCain, but I'm resigned to Obama getting the Presidency. I guess I can stand on my head for 4 years with no problem. It'll come to an end sooner or later.
taxing our health benefits
NEPA Coordinator Forest Service Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:53 AM
I hope most of you federal employees have been carefully listening to McCain's health care proposals. He gives us 2 options. He would tax our employer-provided benefits (saying that currently it's a tax break for the wealthy. Are you wealthy?) His other alternative would give us a $5000 tax credit so that we could drop our employer-provided health insurance and purchase insurance on our own. Beware of that carrot because not only will you pay far more than $5000 for family insurance, but you will also lose the benefit of carrying your federal health insurance into retirement. McCain's plan will cost us dearly.
Experience
Analyst HUD Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:55 AM
What good is lots of experience, if it is bad experience. I want someone smarter than me as President/Vice President. I am a conservative Republican woman that is voting for Obama/Biden.
Re: Experience
Retired Engineer EPA Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:58 PM
You don't fool me. If you're voting for Obama bin Biden, you're not a conservative. No self respected conservative would vote for those two socialists.
who will receive my vote for president.
SSS USDA Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:57 AM
I think both candidates have a lot to offer. I will vote for John Mc Cain.
Presidential Survey
Policy Analyst CMS/DHHS (retired) Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:17 AM
I am a registered Independent. This will be the easiest choice I have ever made. I'm voting for Obama & Biden. Why? To end the war in Iraq, restore confidence in the U.S. internationally, pursue a sound economic and environmental policy, middle class tax cuts, easier access to affordable health care, a better student loan program, and avoiding a third middle east oil war with Iran.
Re: Presidential Survey
IT Spec DOD Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:31 PM
You've been suckered hook line and sinker by the far left. Don't be so gullible.
Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt
Manager NIH Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:32 PM
As a scientist, I look for facts, not emotional gut reactions. When someone tries to sell me something based only upon emotion (esp. fear) then I know something is wrong with their product and I need to look harder. Four years ago, the presidential campaign came down to fear and doubt. Remember the color-coded terror alert system? It is amazing how quickly that went away after the Republican's "fear" of Bush losing re-election went away. The very same people who ran Bush's 2004 campaign are now bringing us Fear Obama 2008. Look harder people- what "new and improved" Republican product are you really buying, when it is the exact same operatives behind the scenes? These same people will be in the next government! And what did you buy with your Republican 2004 vote? Terror criminal #1 bin Laden is still uncaught. We are still stuck in Iraq. At $10Trillion, our national debt is 2x what it was in 2000. Our economy is in the trash after 8 years of (McCain-supported) deregulation. THINK!!
Re: Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt
Supervisor DHS Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:28 PM
NIH Manager, the economy was doing pretty well with low unemployment, a healthy stock market and such until the Democrats took control of Congress in early 2007.
Re: Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt
Manager NIH Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:07 PM
Democrats did not bring the economy to a screeching halt in under a year. Economists and respected business executives like Warren Buffett have been warning about overvalued housing (the housing bubble), mortgage backed securities, & over-leveraged investment companies since before 2005. The folks who blame the Community Reinvestment Act are just looking for an excuse not to blame two big Republican backed bills: Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act and Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000. The latter law stopped the government from regulating credit default swaps- the same contracts which killed AIG and Lehman last month. Furthermore, Alan Greenspan admitted recently that he made a mistake in allowing these companies to self-regulate. The SEC Chairman Mr. Cox also heavily deregulated, allowing "voluntary" regulation, essentially giving up his only major job of oversight. When it comes to the Democratic Congress, correlation does not imply causation. It was Republicans who trashed our TSPs.
Re: Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt
analyst DOD Fri Oct 31, 2008 4:25 PM
"It was Republicans who trashed our TSPs"
Wrong. The table for the mortgage meltdown that led to the current economic crisis was set in the 90s when the Clinton Administration put pressure on Fannie Mae to expand mortgage loans to low and moderate income people.
The Bush Administration has been warning congress repeatedly since 2001 that Fannie and Freddie were getting out of control and needed oversight and regulation. Congress was warned in face to face hearings, in reports specifically addressing the issue, even in budget proposals. Despite all of the warnings by the Bush Administration Congress failed to act until it was too late to avoid the situation we now find ourselves in.
Re: Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt
Supervisor DOA Sat Nov 1, 2008 10:17 AM
The root cause of this mortage crisis which drove down your TSP Manager NIH, was government interference (which is a basic tenant of liberalism) in the first place. If there wasn't so much pressure on the mortage industry to make loans to people who wouldn't normally qualify for them we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place.
Middle Class caused this mess
Fed Worker DoD Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:27 PM
I love how people blame Bush for the economy, and no one seems to recognize that this economy is the result of millions of people buying into a lifestyle that they couldn't afford! I'm not a Bush fan but the economy is failing because people got too far in debt. Yes, I recognize that the war is not completely independent of the financial mess but the economy went south just as foreclosures were rising. There is a direct correlation with middle class irresponsibility and the economy. The housing market and the economy have been booming up until the last 6 months and this war has been going on for some time now.
Stop blaming the president and the Government for YOUR bad choices. I will be voting for McCain. There was a scandal a few years ago in my career field and McCain really impressed me with his rentless pursuit to make things right and hold people accountable. Until this election. . . . Barack Hussein who? I will not vote for a socialist.
Re: Middle Class caused this mess
Engineer USDA Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:07 PM
And your beloved capitalism, a system fundamentally based on GREED, had nothing to do with this mess...? In your own words, "no one seems to recognize that this economy is the result of millions of people buying into a lifestyle that they couldn't afford". I agree. In a socialist state, a genuine working socialist state, not what you THINK socialism means (USSR is not an example either), this would not be possible. Too bad the capitalistic hunger for excess would only corrupt an attempt at this socialism. When your whole life revolves around getting money and wanting more of it in some way, shape, or form, this type of thing is bound to happen.
I can tell you know nothing that has been learned out of your own desire for truth, only what has been taught and fed to you. You media/campaign pawn...stop throwing words around that you hear on tv!!!
Re: Middle Class caused this mess
Analyst dod Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:29 PM
and the Engineer conveniently forgets to mention that the root cause of this was government interference in the mortgage industry in the first place. The Community Reinvestment Act dictated that banks were to make loans to people based on geographical areas that they normally wouldn't make loans to because they didn't meet underwriting guidelines. The political pressure kept ramping up over the years to encourage citizens to take out bigger and bigger loans until we have the mess we're into today.
Don't omit historical fact just because it doesn't jive with your political opinion.
Socialism
rick DCMA Mon Nov 3, 2008 9:25 AM
When the first immigrants to these shores landed and began to grow their food, the captain stored all the food in a central location so that the food could be distributed equally. As time went on, he found that fewer and fewer people were growing food, but continued to receive food from the central food distribution point. Sound familiar....economic wealth redistribution is the same....a disencentive to work. We found this out when welfare was such a major player in our economy, that we had families on welfare for generations, that taught their offspring the ins and outs of the system. Income redistribution has never worked...never will for long. For those driving to be like Europe...take a look at a system that has high unemployment, a stagnating economy, etc. So vote for Obama, your children and grandchildren will pay.... For those Christians supporting Obama, how you going to answer when asked "Why did you send my children to death without a complaint"? Think about it.....
We need a new marketing plan
DoD
Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:23 AM
I am a republican and it seems we only have 3 things to offer the American public this election.
1.) If Democrats hold the executive branch and a majority of legislative branches, they will become as corrupt as we were.
2.) Democrats are soft on national security and will fund domestic programs in lieu of national defense.
3.) Democrats are of questionable moral character.— Obama is a secret Muslim (Hussein is his middle name) , a friend to terrorists (associated with Ayers), not a real American (Born outside of the US--Hawaii).
We need to focus more on what we have to offer and less on gimics that point out how bad the opposition is.
Re: We need a new marketing plan
FAA
Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:20 AM
1. The Republican party lost it's way in the mid 80's (yes, under R.R.), and became a big borrow and spend party (vs. tax and spend).
2. Democrats recognize we can't afford to police the world anymore, and need to take care of our own first (a plus for them).
3. Is being a Muslim bad? Like when McCain corrected the women on Obama being an Arab - he said, "No, he's a decent person". Can't you be an Arab and a decent peorson too? Plus, Palin was asked if abortion clinic bombers were terrorists, and she said "I don't know".
I thought that was the definition of terrorist - one who used terror to advance their ideals.
Looks like hard line right wingers are friends with terrorists too.
McCain was born outside the US also in Panama, and in 1936 he was not eligible to run for President (that law was changed in 1938 to allow for foreign military bases).
I am supporting Chuck Baldwin - Consitution Party.
Re: We need a new marketing plan
DOI
Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:34 AM
Engineer -- FAA, you have some great points, but dependingon your State of residence, a vote for Baldwin is as good as a vote for McCain.
Obama'll help our standing and security on the world stage, while mitigating trickle-up economics @home
Re: We need a new marketing plan
USDA
Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:22 AM
Re: We need a new marketing plan
VA
Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:06 AM
Re: We need a new marketing plan
DoD
Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:58 AM
Re: We need a new marketing plan
DOL
Mon Oct 27, 2008 4:09 PM
I learned something last week from a Wash Post reporter, as to the term "non-partisan".
While the Annenberg foundation is always found in print with the tag non-partisan. I asked why/how that could be.
He informed me its a self tag that organizations are free to use the term and the editorial staff always makes them use it.
So in the future the KKK can bill themselves as non-partisan
Re: We need a new marketing plan
FAA
Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:53 AM
No, it would not!! I would be branded a racist.
Ayers has not disavowed his actions, instead he wishes he had done more. Most of his honors comes from people who agree with him. It is not ok for Obama to associate with this man.
By the way, Democrats can be as dirty as Republicans
can be. People overlook the "sins"of the people they support.
Voted!
Bureau of Mongo
Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:30 AM
Here in FL. early voting has kicked off. Mine went to the McCain/Palin ticket, but I don't think it did much good. I was outnumbered at the polls by about 70 to 1 by Obama supporters (wearing his pins anyway which is a pretty strong indication).
Re: Voted!
GSA
Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:40 PM
Selection Process
USDA
Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:54 AM
McCain never differentiated himself from Bush. We've had 8 years of unmitigated foreign policy, economic, financial, and emergency management disasters. This country cannot survive another 4 years of such incompetence.
What really tipped the balance for me was the selection of Sarah Palin as the VP candidate. Even several prominent Republicans have pointed out she is unqualified. She does not convey a very executive image with her folksy use of slang and parading her Downes Syndrome baby around like a sack of potatoes. I don't want a president or vice-president who is "just like me." I want a candidate who is a lot smarter than me and qualified to deal with a wide range of complex issues.
Re: Selection Process
DOI
Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:36 AM
I also don't want a Pres who is going to keep trying to erode people's individual rights here at home and push a politics of division and hatred here at home. And I want a Supreme Court that will NOT take away the right to abortion.
Re: Selection Process
Dept of the Navy
Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:06 AM
Re: Selection Process
DOD
Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:35 AM
I have a hard time with a person who will not support & respect, the constitution of the United States. (She does not know it either, for VP duties) She & her husband have associations and/or membership with an Alaska seccessionist group. Would a member of the old Confederate States of America even be allowed to run for office? Especially a high office!!! Think about it!!! How can any thinking American vote for someone who would allow the dissolution, & break up, of the USA!!! This is treason & anarchy!!! That is beyond me!!! It's scary that some of our fellow citizens would elect such a person to power!!!
Re: Selection Process
Retired
Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:23 AM
If BO is smarter than you, you must be dumb as a stump!
Re: Selection Process
Overseas
Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:33 AM
Re: Selection Process
DOL
Mon Oct 27, 2008 4:13 PM
Re: Selection Process
dod
Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:18 PM
Re: Selection Process
Retired
Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:08 AM
Re: Selection Process
TSO
Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:10 PM
Re: Selection Process
Borg
Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:12 AM
The answer is no. The Confederate States of America came to an end in 1865 when General Robert E. Lee surrendered. All members of "the old Confederate States of America" have been dead for years. While there is a lot of dead wood in Congress and many zombie-like members, none of them actually is dead.
Re: Selection Process
DoD
Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:26 AM
Obama's lack of experience for the job of president concerns me far more than Palin's lack of experience for the job of vice president. Obama is a first-term senator who spent the first part of his term writing his book and the last part running for president. He would not be selected as president of a corporation with so little experience and yet he'll probably be elected as president of our country. Now that's scary!
Re: Selection Process
dod
Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:10 PM
Inappropriate comment
DHS
Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:35 AM
I thought Ralph polices this site and excludes inappropriate material. Item 3 from "Budget Analyst" is a lie and inappropriately defamatory. It should be returned to sender.
Re: Inappropriate comment
DOI
Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:05 AM
How I Voted
Army
Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:39 AM
There is no more important issue than national defense; therefre there was only one logical choice--I voted for McCain/Palin. The second most important issue is the economy. We can't fix that by taking money from those who work to give it to those who won't; again the choice was obvious--I voted for McCain/Palin.
Re: How I Voted
HHS
Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:02 PM
As for your point on the economoy, Obama's plan will benefit people making under $250,000 per year. McCain's plan will give more tax cuts to the rich. I suppose according to you, people who make less than $250K don't work, and people who make millions from hedge funds and derivitives are the true workers. Thank you for pointing out the true difference in perspectives between Democrats and Republicans.
Re: How I Voted
DoD
Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:50 AM
Re: How I Voted
GSA
Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:05 PM
Re: How I Voted
DoD
Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:26 AM
Strongly disagree with Obama being Muslim
GSA
Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:42 AM
I'm simply amazed that anyone could believe Obama is a Muslim--beyond that a "secret Muslim." I am flabbergasted beyond words that anyone of more than a 10th grade education could be so duped. What is the evidence? Its so ludicrous that I must stop here--I'm getting ill. But its typical of this type of right-winger comment, i.e., unsubstantiated, gossip, slander and mud. Don't you think our mainstream, "elite" media that these conservative characters complain about, would have found out and reported it? Even Palin doesn't say this.
No Brainer
USAF
Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:51 AM
If you work for the DOD and plan on voting for Obama you will only have yourself to blame when you're out job hunting. It's starting already. The third most useless individual next to Pelosi and Reed is Barney Frank and he's already preparing to cut the military by 25%. This money will go to increase welfare payments and extend unemployment benefits, and their not even in complete control. I can't even imagine what the United Dtates will look like 2 years form now. Who are the idiots who keep voting these characters into back into office. If thats the best they have to nominate, I'm sure glad I don't live in that state.
Re: No Brainer
DON
Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:56 PM
Re: No Brainer
DON
Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:02 PM
Re: No Brainer
HHS
Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:21 PM
The only sheep around here are one like you that spout off the latest Limbaugh and Hannity rantings. 1) You must admit, Obama has SOME experience. No need to exaggerate just to try to make a point. He might not have been in government as long as McCain (who has?), but that may not be a bad thing. 2) Obama is not a Marxist or a Socialist. All he's doing is advocating a progressive tax code, which McCain has done in the past. 3) America does not have the second highest corporate tax rate in the world. When factoring in all the corporate loopholes (pass through accounting, etc.), America's effective tax rate is comparable to other industrial countries. The World Economic Forum’s Global Competitiveness Report shows that America is still the most business-friendly country in the world. 4) Reducing taxes is not the way to go. Where have you been the last 8 years? The rich are richer and the middle class is worse off. Trickle down economics has never worked.
Re: No Brainer
USA
Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:39 PM
Hey Attorney, if reducing taxes is not the way to go then why do both major candidates say they will do just that? More meaningless campaign promises?
2008 Election
USAF
Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:51 AM
As a Conservative the only canditate is McCain/Palin. I think I'm voting more for Palin than McCain because I like her no-nonsense - middle class approach that most of the people can relate.
Re: 2008 Election
HUD
Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:22 AM
Who will receive my vote?
Veterans Affairs
Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:56 AM
John McCain will receive my vote.
Even Joe Biden at one point said that John McCain is a much better candidate for president than Obama and that he would be honored to serve with McCain. He also said in a democratic candidates' debate that Obama doesn't have enough experience. Now all of a sudden he's wonderful? Louis Farrakhan calls Obama "the messiah". That in and by itself should tell people something about this man, not to mention all the other things that make him a dangerous choice for America.
Re: Who will receive my vote?
Retired
Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:25 AM
Re: Who will receive my vote?
DoD
Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:44 AM
Re: Who will receive my vote?
VA
Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:55 PM
Re: Who will receive my vote?
DOD
Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:20 PM
Voting?
DoD
Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:58 AM
Yes, I am voting this year and I am encouraging everyone else to vote. Regardless of the party affiliation or who you wish to support, you need to vote. For folks that live in my voting district, I have offered them rides (no political discussions please) to the polls. This is something we all can do.
We (the People) have a voting record that is a disgrace. Simply put, if you don't vote, don't complain.
As far as who I will vote for, that is simple. I am going to vote for the most conservative of all the bloody communists that are running for office. This year, that is Mr. McCain. I also voted for GHB, RR and Goldwater. I have voted for Democratic candidates (JFK & Jimmy Carter).
I am voting
DoD
Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:58 AM
As of today I am voting for McCain/Palin. He's dedicated his whole life to this country, and at a time in his life when he can enjoy it and reap the rewards of his hard work, he's still willing to take on the vigors of the Presidency. For Senator. Obama, I have to go by the following quote (author unknow). "I've learned that it takes years to build up trust, and it only takes suspicion, not proof, to destroy it." I am suspicious.
Re: I am voting
VA
Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:56 PM
Re: I am voting
Navy
Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:10 PM
Re: I am voting
TSO
Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:53 PM
Presidential Candidate
DoD
Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:14 AM
I will be voting for John McCain. Obama scars me with hie socialist tendancies.
Vote for President
Treasury
Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:15 AM
Obama will get my vote. I strongly feel that Obama and Biden will do a far superior job for our country than McCain and Palin.
Vote
U S Probation
Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:27 AM
I will be voting for Obama/Biden, that's the only intelligent choice.
Staunch Independent
DFAS
Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:28 AM
McCain & Palin have my vote. I could never bring myself to vote for Obama. What has become of our country. How fast people have forgotten 9-11. We won't have to worry about the economy if we are all dead from terrorists, that will have no problem getting to us. We have gotten so greedy over money that we have forgotten our security problems in this country.
Vote
DoD
Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:00 AM
I am an independent and considered both candidates and find I disagree with both on a number of issues. However, I will be voting for Obama. McCain's hiring of Rove associates, selecting Palin (part time mayor of a town of less than 5000 who brought in an administrator to perform day to day functions, supported bridge to nowhere before she was against it, etc) and the number of vile and untrue emails attacking Obama that I have recieved from Republican friends has convinced me that McCain is too closely linked to Bush' ethics and policies (which I oppose) and at age 72 selecting Palin as VP clinched which candidate was to receive my vote. I think Obama presents the best chance to get a bipartisan answer to the problems we face.
Obama For President? You've GOT to be KIDDING!!
FAA
Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:13 AM
Obama SCARES me! How can you vote to put a man into the position of Commander in Chief who won't even acknowledge or say a pledge of allegiance to the flag now?!?!?? Plus, to do everything that he's promised to do, he will have to raise taxes astronomically. If he's elected, you'd better enjoy that wealth redistribution check when you get it, because you're going to be giving it all back - PLUS some - in new taxes shortly!
Re: Obama For President? You've GOT to be KIDDING!!
FAA
Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:46 PM
Please, don't quote Rush L or the Drudge report for this item. something factual would be sufficient.
Here is the problem with the party systems, by the way, and the average American voter. The tendency to believe either-or is killing us. Obama is either God or satan. He's good or bad. No middle road.
Voters hear their party say something like the Obama quote, and will repeat it as absolute truth without even verifying if it's true - just like the "attacked McCain supporter at the ATM story". All made up, but repeated by "authority" (Matt Drudge, et al) so it must be correct.
Please American voters, please. Read the facts (there are a dozen good fact checker sites out there) and don't let Rush/Air America decide for you.
Re: Obama For President? You've GOT to be KIDDING!!
VA
Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:58 PM
Re: Obama For President? You've GOT to be KIDDING!!
Navy
Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:03 AM
Executive Experience
DHS USCG
Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:14 AM
Since so many are willing to question the experience of Mrs. Palin, who is a state govenor, I'd like to ask a question?
WHAT HAS OBAMA EVER DONE. I have never seen that he has accomplished anything. He's been campaigning for president since he was elected to congress. He's missed many of the votes or voted present on controversial issues. He came up through Chicago machine politics. He's an extreme socialist/marxist.
Paid for by big money from folks like George Soros.
Sorry folks, you've been sold a bill of goods by big money and media glitz. Unfortunately we are all going to pay for it. The crazy three: Obama, Pelosi and Reid, the new three stooges.
Re: Executive Experience
Education
Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:04 AM
Re: Executive Experience
Retired
Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:54 PM
Re: Executive Experience
Navy
Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:35 AM
1. 5 times elected to the U.S. House of Representatives
2. Served as Minister to Russia
3. 12 years in the U.S. Senate
4. Served as Secretary of State
5. Served as Minister to Great Britain
Qualifications of candidate #2
1. Eight years in the Illinois state legislature
2. One term in the U.S. House of Representatives
Candidate #1 is James Buchanan who became the 15th President of the U.S. (1857-1861)
Candidate #2 is Abraham Lincoln who became the 16th President of the U.S. (1861-1865)
Who was the better Commander-in-Chief?
Buchanan- up until "W" considered by many historians as the worst President.
Lincoln - considered as one of, if not the best, President we've ever had.
Lesson Learned - Judgment trumps experience!!!
Re: Executive Experience
DON
Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:54 PM
Obama is no Lincoln.
Election
Justice
Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:16 AM
Voted for none of the above. Left it blank. Neither are acceptable.
DOD is afraid of...
FAA
Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:29 AM
First, OBAMA is NOT against defense of nation...just stupid, unfounded wars. (Let's not forget the Wienberger and Powell doctrines)
Second, if we took the capabilities of the DOD and transformed just a fraction of it's mega-structure into developing technology to fight against our need to import oil, we would be much more secure. That would offset the clear fear of job security disguised as national security. (see USAF Counselor)
Third, IMHO, war based economies are doomed to failure.
I think our military has to be between the "mean lean" machine and the current war levels. I also think that we can be MUCH smarter in how DOD (or any other government organization) spends money.
Vote
OPM
Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:57 AM
McCain/Palin
Get out and VOTE!
DoD
Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:59 AM
This election, I'm voting for Obama. I think Obama has a well thought-out strategy on how to get this country back on its feet. He also is more collected and calm whenever he speaks. McCain seems to not have it all together. Alot of the things he would like to do just don't make good sense. Although Palin was governor and seems to have leadership experience, it doesn't seem evident whenever she speaks at the rallys. Also, I think McCain's mudslinging is deplorable! The Obama campaign has done a little, but not to the extent McCain has. Maybe he should stick to telling what he IS going to do, instead of what Obama isn't. VOTE OBAMA!!!
Re: Get out and VOTE!
Retired
Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:24 PM
Don't you think if McCain had associated with evil people, Obama would have exploited it by now?
But McCain is clean (and a true hero) while Obama is a snake.
Re: Get out and VOTE!
DoD
Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:41 AM
But if I would have to answer, give me something harder, because McCain is an easier target. Let's see ... McCain winning the election = 4 more years of BUSHism.
Re: Get out and VOTE!
TSO
Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:16 AM
You're wrong.
Re: Get out and VOTE!
DoD
Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:07 AM
Re: Get out and VOTE!
TSO
Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:14 PM
Re: Get out and VOTE!
DoD
Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:19 AM
As I am opening my eyes and ears, should I also look for a new job if the Republicans win, because there won't be a budget left to pay me with the huge deficit they will incur.
Re: Get out and VOTE!
DON
Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:06 PM
And if you have been paying attention to the news, you'll know that on numerous occasions Obama has stated that he wants to redistribute the wealth, spread the wealth around. The last time I checked, that is a basic principal of Socialism, if not Marxism. Seems anti-American to me ......
Obama's Economic Plan Will Destroy The Economy
Commerce
Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:01 PM
I'm voting for McCain (or better stated--I'm voting against Obama). Obama's economic plan will destroy the economy. Obama will raise taxes (by allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire) on middle income earners. Also, he wants to overtax those making over $250,000. By doing that, small business owners will scale back to avoid that threshold and jobs will become more scarce. Those businesses that don't scale back will just pass the additional cost of doing business along to the consumers. Then there will be some folks who won't start new businesses to begin with. What's the incentive if 60 to 70 percent of every dollar earned is going to be taxed? Obama's plan destroys initiative. John McCain may by imperfect, but he gets a couple of things right. One of the main reasons our jobs have left the country is due to overtaxation. Cutting taxes for all, including corporate tax rates, will make it less likely that jobs will be sent overseas.
Re: Obama's Economic Plan Will Destroy The Economy
FAA
Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:52 PM
Answer: Less than 10%
Remember, we're talking net income, not gross. Every small business owner I know has enough expenses, write offs and tax loop holes to bring their bottom lines way below $250,000.
This is small business, by the way as defined by the US govt Small Business Administration (sba size standard website).
Again, as I told my brother the FAA controller in their post, do some research first before believing what MSNBC or FOX news tells you.
(I support neither Obama or McCain - and no, I'm not a Nader person either)
Re: Obama's Economic Plan Will Destroy The Economy
Education
Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:12 AM
Redistribution of the wealth will likely not effect small business it will just effect the individual taxpayer and it isn't going to be just the "fat cats" either. Has anyone read any of his "latest" economic plans? He keeps changing his positions to suit his critics until he gets elected and then around April 20th everyone will be astounded with what the country ends up with after the election. This man has never served his country's interests only his backers interests and his own. Why is everyone willing to look the other way on this guy? Clearly the media wants him to be elected otherwise why would they be focusing on stuff that really doesn't matter?
POTUS vote
IRS
Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:27 PM
McCain-Palin will receive my vote. But I'm not excited about either one. It's a poor choice this year. I voted for Obama in my state's primary but the more I thought about it, the less I want him as POTUS. He is just as qualified to be President as Palin is. Their resumes are equally thin.
But the real problem is not with these two candidates. The fault is with us as a people. The candidates are a symptom. Both of these men will expand the power of the federal government over our lives and reduce the choices we have as citizens of a supposedly free republic. As a nation we want the government to take care of us. We don't seem to want to stand on our own two feet. That is not what the founders worked hard to bring forth into this world. We have become a small jealous people.
There is a saying "You get the government you deserve." Hopefully we will come to our senses and someone will arise in the next 4 years and make the case for personal liberty under limited government.
2008 election
SSA
Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:40 PM
I'm voting for Barack Obama... because I want my country back.
Presidential Vote
Customs & Border Protection
Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:46 PM
As a Marine and Law Enforcement Officer I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, therefore I can not vote for Obama!
Re: Presidential Vote
FAA
Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:42 PM
Are you serious, Bush and the republicans have gone against the constitution numerous times, Illegal wire tapping comes to mind. Wake up
Re: Presidential Vote
DoD
Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:46 AM
Re: Presidential Vote
Navy
Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:58 AM
Re: Presidential Vote
DoD
Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:08 AM
Re: Presidential Vote
Navy
Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:10 AM
Re: Presidential Vote
Customs & Border Protection
Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:24 PM
Re: Presidential Vote
Customs & Border Protection
Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:43 PM
Obama is an avowed Socialist (yes I said avowed Socialist (do your research)) and Socialism is a direct assault on the Constitution!
Wake up!
Re: Presidential Vote
DoD
Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:33 AM
Re: Presidential Vote
Customs & Border Protection
Wed Oct 29, 2008 2:51 PM
As an Engineer, I expected you to be able to conduct real research, I guess I was wrong. On the other hand, as a typical liberal, your resort to personal attacks when you become confronted with the truth!
Start your research in Chicago (about 1995), when Obama began his career in left wing politics. Research the New Party and The Democratic Socialist Party of America. BTW research does not just mean Google. Try heading to a library and researching newspapers and periodicals also!
Re: Presidential Vote
Customs & Border Protection
Wed Oct 29, 2008 3:05 PM
"To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists."
From ‘The Audacity Of Hope:
“I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction"
From Dreams of My Father:
”I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother’s race.”
Re: Presidential Vote
US Forest Service
Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:34 PM
The time period Obama was writing about in your first quote from "Dreams of My Father" was when he was a freshman in college -- a time when it it typical for young people to experiment and learn. He also says, when writing about that time period:
"...In fact, that whole first year seemed like on long lie, me spending my energy running around in circles...."
Sounds like a typical college freshman to me.
The "I found a solace..." quote. Obama did not say that -- ever. The quote comes from an analysis and interpretation of the book by a conservative author (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/517/)
Will continue in another post, since I'm out of room.
Re: Presidential Vote
US Forest Service
Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:47 PM
"... he wrote that when he speaks to audiences of Pakistani and Arab-Americans, their message to him has a more urgent quality.
'(T)he stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'
Obama doesn't mention Muslims here at all; he's clearly talking about U.S. citizens of Arab and Pakistani descent."
(http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/518/)
It would be good if folks did not quote emails without checking facts first.
Re: Presidential Vote
Customs & Border Protection
Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:18 PM
I never sounded like that and neither did any of my friends!
Sounds more like a college socialist and has nothing to do with your freshman year!
He was a socialist then and he is still a socialist!
Lesser of 2 evils
AF
Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:47 PM
I'm voting for McCain.
I really don't like either one, but I feel McCain is the better of the 2. Voting present in congress is not my idea of a leader that will be deciding on issues.
According to Fact Check Obama let Bush have his way (by voting yeah on the issue and letting it pass) 1 to 2 times more than McCain. Yet he contredicts his own record.
Re: Lesser of 2 evils
DoD
Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:26 AM
THE FACTS (From Factcheck.org, Boston Globe, NY Times, Chicago Tribune): Obama acknowledges that over nearly eight years in the Illinois Senate, he voted "present" 129 times. That was out of roughly 4,000 votes he cast , so those "presents" amounted to about one of every 31 votes in his legislative career (or 3% if you do the math).
Illinois legislators often vote "present" and for a wide variety of reasons. Sometimes blocs of lawmakers do it as a protest in some dispute over rules and procedures. Obama was often joined in his "present" votes by 10 or 20 other senators.
In other cases, lawmakers do it to signal objections to the details of a measure that they support in principle. They also use "present" votes as strategic moves to defeat legislation or, of course, simply to avoid taking a firm position.
Also what "issue" are you referring to? Is it one, two, three? How many did he vote against? Ten, Twenty, Thirty?
Re: Lesser of 2 evils
dod
Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:31 PM
Re: Lesser of 2 evils
DoD
Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:32 AM
Re: Lesser of 2 evils
dod
Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:00 PM
The point was that the NYT and Boston Globe which you are using as sources of information are quite biased. That point is obvious, it's too bad you couldn't figure it out.
The most important election in the history of our
DOD
Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:09 PM
Unite the races by ending the stereotypes (on BOTH sides) which will help unite the country. We need fiscal responsibility, re-investment 'in' & revive 'where' this GREAT country's greatest assets lie- in its people. Restore our integrity from within and let it be the beacon it once was, and let it shine internationally. A man devoted to protecting our civil rights compared to one who protects the extremely wealthy and whose mantra is win or die trying to win a war that should never been fought in the first place? We've given more people more reason to hate us; and for what? To satisfy the ego of our current mistake, the spoiled rich kid who dodged war himself, we are STILL at war!?! And, people are thinking to vote for more of the same? Huh? This year I switched from republican to Democrat; let us now put people to work rebuilding our nation and in their stead let us put the lobbyists in the unemployment line. BTW I am a disabled veteran- I do know senseless waste when I see
I voted for Obama
Department of Air Force
Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:22 PM
I voted for Barack Obama because I believe it is time for change. Obama supporters are more diverse, and I believe his policies will put America back on the right track. McCain is shaky on all the issues and continues to change by the day plus his VP pick is NOT qualified to be president, and that says a lot about his decision making, besides, Republicans have never cared about the common people. I'm also afraid he will probably get us in another war.
None of the Above
DFAS
Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:25 PM
McCain: sick and elderly, which may be why he seems a little scattered
Palin: When I noticed she was dragging her little girl around to all those debates, long after a child that age should be in bed, I concluded she was all sizzle and no steak
Obama: I think he would be a good leader, but I can't vote for a candidate who favors partial-birth abortion
Biden: Too close to the credit card companies
So I'll pick a 3rd-party candidate; if enough of us do this, maybe someday there will be a viable 3rd party.
Constitution
GSA
Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:23 PM
Today I heard a 2001 Obama interview wherein he elaborates that the Founding Fathers had flawed in the writing of the Constitution. If elected President, Obama will restructure the Constitution of the US to suit his Agenda. We, as a Nation cannot allow that to happen. I hope that every legally registered voter will think long and hard before they cast their voites. In this time of economic fall-out, we cannot afford a spend-and-tax Leader, especially one that wants to "restructure" the Constitution and allow the Supreme Court the power to Legislate from the bench!
Re: Constitution
US Forest Service
Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:51 PM
Apparently you're referring to judicial review which allows courts to examine the constitutionality of legislation. Even if Obama is elected and does appoint some Supreme Court judges, there is no guarantee they'll rule the way he'd prefer.
As a scholar in constitutional law, I'm sure Obama did have some criticisms of the way the Constitution was written. That doesn't mean he wants to or is able to "restructure" it.
Re: Constitution
OPM
Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:36 PM
The pertinent question should be this: Do we want a President who WOULD, if he could, restructure the Constitution?
Not this voter!
Re: Constitution
been there/done that
Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:23 AM
Re: Constitution
DOI
Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:11 AM
Who'll Receive My Vote
DoD
Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:42 PM
Sen. Obama is being accused of being a Socialist by Republicans, and so he is at least that. However, Sen. McCain has supported the Bush administration's expansion with Big Government into practically every aspect of our lives - that's also Socialism.
With either Obama or McCain as president, 20 million illegal aliens will receive amnesty, and who knows what other perks, if there are any left to be given out. Obama will tax and spend us into oblivion; if McCain follows up with recent bailouts of big businesses, and other Bush's programs, he will do likewise. It seems to me we are well on the way to Socialism already, if not fascism.
For this life-long Republican, my vote now goes to the Libertarian party, and against every incumbent with very few exceptions. The only way we'll ever have real change, and return to the Constitution, is if we turn out most all the entrenched bums in Congress who are complicit in creating the current mess in which we find ourselves.
WHO WILL GET MY VOTE
VA
Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:41 PM
Obama- Attny/ Commerce: Greed is why jobs left the US. Why pay people 5$ an hr. here, when you can get it done in a 3rd world country w/practically slave labor, in a country run by communism? Sec/Defas: Sounds like someone needs a 9/11 hug. Obama is not a terrorist nor linked w/Alqueida who takes full blame for the bombings, check engineer's definition of terrorism, it's on point. Bush's fear tactics were closser to terrorism ever done. Sec/Steno: Even black people have stopped listening to Farakahn, (since he helped oust Mr X) it's scary that you look for retribution in his words to justify your choice. Is blaming a man for something that happened when he was 8 yrs old fair? Around that time I'm sure Obama's main concern was what's on TV and what girl likes him at school. Last to all: Why is Obama protrayed as un-american? He didn't petition congress to ceceed from the US (like Palin), and surely he believes all americans are pro-american, unlike Ms. Sarah. Check it.
My Vote
Treasury Dept.
Mon Oct 27, 2008 4:17 PM
Obama is the only person who is qualified to be the best President and he has my vote. I can imagine what the world will be like when Obama becomes President. I hope to see the economy growing along with prosperity and peace returning to this country. Obama supporters as well most foreign countries are awaiting Obama election to the highest office of this great America. He will do a great job in carrying out the Presidential duties. Obama Obama you are the best.
Re: My Vote
EPA
Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:52 PM
Budget Analist
Retired
Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:50 PM
Hay genius McBush wants to tax your health benefits.How do you figure that to be tax reduction dunce.
Congratulations
DoD
Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:09 PM
I do have to congratulate the people leaving posts here. Normally the people on the left just engage in name calling without any facts to support their views while the people on the right tend to have more well thought out intelligent opinions. However, on this site there has been little name calling from the people on the left. They still don’t have any facts to support their opinion, but at least they aren’t just engaged in name calling. Good for you. That is a definite improvement.
What has he actually done?
dod
Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:16 PM
Obama supporters need to ask themselves the following question:
What has Obama actually done?
He makes good speeches, he makes flashy campaign promises but history will show that campaign promises are routinely not kept.
The world is filled with politicians who are talented at running their mouths, but talk is cheap.. What has he actually done?
Obama is my man!
VA
Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:21 PM
As a lifetime Fed, I have to vote for Obama. I have no dobut that McCain would stick it to us if he were to be elected.
Who will receive my vote for President of the USA
DCMA
Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:58 AM
I will vote for McCain/Palin and hope some how they win because I fear what a socialist like Obama will attempt to do to impliment his crazy ideas. I am so astonished that people who claim to be so enlightened and intelligent haven't read the facts and history about this walking piece of doodoo. As a resident of Cook county Illinois we have seen what BHO is all about and we can only conclude that the reason anyone who is non-white would vote for him is because of his skin color. Those whites who are voting for him are doing so out of a feeling of quilt or stupity or hate for Bush. Time to pull your head of the dark spot and just look at both candidates history. If anyone did an honest assessment of all available facts it is obvious that you should vote for McCain. Sadly I fear BHO will win and we will need a major toilet flushing in 2012 to clean all the crap out.
Re: Who will receive my vote for President of the USA
DOI
Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:15 AM
Re: Who will receive my vote for President of the USA
HUD
Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:17 AM
Who for president
N/A
Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:56 AM
Ultimately, although I'm worried about things line erosion of our civil liberties in the name of security, I will be able to live and probably still have a job under either president. So I will be making my decision based on who will help those citizens 'on the margin' in these tough times.
For example, access to some basic, limited heathcare really is important and it's a cruel joke to offer a tax credit to pay for it to someone who doesn't have a job and therefore pays no taxes to credit.
PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION
CBP
Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:58 AM
This is the most important election of my lifetime, arguably in the history of the USA. Democracy itself may be threatened. While both candidates are not the best choices for President, I do believe that the survival of America itself and the freedoms for which she represents are more important than if federal workers get a bigger wage increase, or better union involvement, or better working conditions. While all of these are to be sure, important matters of and by themselves. There is no more important matter than that of preserving the USA and all of the underlying freedoms for which we have known, loved and fought for.
God Bless the US and may she remain the United States of America
Point of clarification
Education
Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:45 AM
If I'm a white person and I vote for a white candidate when the other candidate is black I'm considered racist but if black voters vote for the black candidate they are not considered racists? Perhaps rather than looking to race to make up your mind you should consider experience and detail of plans for the future. Keep in mind that this is a captialist country and redistribution of the wealth is a Marxist idea aka socialism/communism. Think about your paycheck being redistributed to people who have nothing wrong with them but are unwilling to go to work and they had the same opportunities that you did to do what you did with your life and chose to take a hand out instead of a hand up.
Re: Point of clarification
Navy
Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:22 AM
Re: Point of clarification
DON
Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:24 PM
7 more days
USDA
Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:47 AM
Both parties should be ashame of theirself. This would have been a great time for a strong third party candidate. Just another four years of the same old party infighting.
Re: 7 more days
AF
Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:15 AM
Who Will Receive Your Vote for President of the Un
FAA
Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:53 AM
For the first time in a long time, America has been devastated so badly that voters have resorted to choosing their leaders based on issues instead of smears, hype and bumper-sticker slogans. Maybe there is hope, after all.
Re: Who Will Receive Your Vote for President of the Un
AF
Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:16 AM
Who will my vote for President
U.S. EPA
Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:35 AM
I will vote for John McCain because I believe the government cannot do a better job of spending MY MONEY than I would. I think when you spread the wealth around it is not good for everybody and it is not Patriotic! Because terrorists should NOT be allowed to have trials in American courts. Because English should be the official language of the United States. Because having a domestic terrorist like Bill Ayers as a close friend is NOT a good thing. Because illegal aliens do not deserve all the rights of ordinary Americans plus some additional rights Americans do not have. Because groups like ACORN, who register felons, drug addicts, wino’s, homeless drifters, illegal aliens, dead people, children, fictional Disney characters, etc. makes my vote count less.
basic quals/education, character
USDA Forest Service
Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:16 AM
VOTED:Obama/Biden. Basics: Barack has grown up with most odds against him to be an average working citizen. Yet he has been so focused, determined and responsible his accomplishments blow the doors off the rest of us--an education in Political Science, straight A's. his nature, choosing to volunteer in communities vs heading to wall street to line his pockets, responsible husband/father and he is really cute (genuine) about it. He chose Biden who has the education & as much 'time/ experience' as McCain. Delayed his career to care for his sons following a tragedy. There are alot of guys who would have just turned it over to their mom or anyone else and bailed. //Then you have McCain/Palin, yes, they are both great individuals, no dought. It's too bad McCain wasn't able to get the presidency in '00 or '04. His experience, war his nature to fight. Without a degree, how many IOU's has he aquired to develop his political career..? Palin, President? Ten yrs. maybe. Now, NO, Just Say NO!
2008 Presidential Election
DHS
Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:07 PM
I had to vote for McCain, not out of any great love I have for the man, but more the fear I have of what an Obama Presidency can do to this nation. I personally think an Obama Presidency will be disastrous! Yes, Bush erred in his Presidency, but I do not see him as the monster responsible for all the ills of this nation; but then the "Bush Bashers" are willing tools of the Left and those who control it for their own self serving agendas.
If Obama is elected, I just hope this nation will survive his Presidency, for all I see is Doom. For those who do not agree, that is your privilege, but do not start calling me names simply because I have expressed mine.
national security and economic stability
ED
Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:05 PM
Obama is the clear choice to manage the current economic crisis and avoid even more reckless military adventurism. I've never in my life been so sure and so excited about my vote.
Re: national security and economic stability
dod
Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:21 PM
Re: national security and economic stability
ED
Wed Oct 29, 2008 2:46 PM
Re: national security and economic stability
dod
Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:07 PM
My choice for President of the US
SSA/Retired
Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:07 PM
I will vote for Barack Obama for President, not because he is black or that the election of a black man will be historic, but because he is by far the best qualified choice. His vice-presidential choice is also very comforting. If anything should happen to Obama, God forbid, Biden could step into the Presidential shoes and be a very competent president in his place. Together, Obama and Biden make a wonderful team for the Democratic ticket for President and Vice President.
Re: My choice for President of the US
dod
Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:26 AM
President
DCMA
Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:37 AM
I'm voting for John McCain because I feel he is the best of the two to run this country. I must admit, I don't like some of the programs he says he'll try to get through but all-in-all he has the experience, he will defend this country, bring the work back home from overseas, and help the middle class so the U.S. can get back on it's feet again. All I've heard from Obama is empty words and he promises everything that we know will not happen. That's my opinion, thank you for your time.
VOTED!
VHA
Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:54 AM
TO: Asset Manager
GSA
You forget that GWB frequently used his veto power to manipulate the lawmakers. His fellow Republicans backed him.
Quite frankly, I'm sick to death of the Republican party and the way they've wrecked this country. Those of you who support them share the blame, in my opinion.
SELECTION PROCESS
VHA
Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:12 AM
Diversity Manager
DOL
You claim that Palin is so experienced and would make such a good President. Answer this..........
If she is so all knowing and great, why is her teenage daughter pregnant and unmarried? Why did OLD Sarah, at age 44 or better give birth? Her son has Down's Syndrome, which is known to be caused by child birth after 35. He's just beginning his life of dependence on others because of her lack of good judgement. When she's gone from this world, he could quite possibly still be here, having to depend upon others for his needs.
Let's talk about judgment and family values. What a joke!!!!!!
She calls herself a "soccer mom" first. An obvious lie. This woman has five children and should be spending more of her time raising those she brought into the world! She has absolutely no business in the White House.
Re: SELECTION PROCESS
usda
Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:00 AM
So, women with children shouldn't work?
Re: SELECTION PROCESS
DFAS
Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:31 AM
Re: SELECTION PROCESS
Borg
Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:02 PM
Having a pregnant teenage daughter is not a reflection on Palin's character. It happens to many teenagers at all levels of income and any other demographic. Get over it.
And why shouldn't a woman work, no matter how many children she has? Your statement reflects an ignorant, sexist attitude that is fortunately dying out among people of education and intellect.
Re: Who will receive my vote?
VHA
Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:19 AM
Analyst
DOD
Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:20 PM
Attention Unhigh.. Bush isn't running for office.
Maybe Bush isn't running for office, but MCBUSH is.
Obama will win, thank goodness. Time to wipe the slate clean and start fresh.
Re: Re: Who will receive my vote?
dod
Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:34 PM
McCain and Bush disagree on Immigration yet our friend from the VHA thinks they're the same.
McCain and Bush disagree on Terrorist interrogation yet our friend from the VHA thinks they're the same.
and on.. and on. Our friend from the VHA needs to stop listening to left wing talking points. That worn out McBush line is getting old.. and is still wrong.
Regime change
NOAA
Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:41 AM
I have cast my vote for Obama and urge patriotic Americans to do the same. The USA goes around the world fomenting wars and regime change in the name of democracy, so time to practice the same here. Enough of the Current Occupant/Unitary Executive's neocon psuedo fascism.
What I can't believe is that all these years of working as a Civil Servant, I have been surrounded by so many people who display so much ignorance. All this vapid chatter about Obama being somehow less American than the other folks, McCain being a war hero, Palin being Joey the Six-Pack Mayor, etc, etc. Concentrate on the message and actions of the candidates my fellow Feds. McCain is the past, the deregulator, the cause of our economic meltdown, the promise of Bush's third term. Away with all this ruin and corruption.
Re: Regime change
dod
Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:50 PM
DISGUSTED WITH ALL OF YOUR MUDSLINGING!!!!
USDA
Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:42 AM
Almost all of you posting on here DISGUST me with your reasons for voting AGAINST a candidate (along with most Americans)! Especially those "national security" reasons which are just fear-induced opinions caused by allegations spoon-fed to you by various sources. You pansies want massive militaries and budgets to protect you from "terrorists" and then hypocritically complain about not wanting big government? The "not enough experience" argument is silly and pathetic unless you're happy with the way our government has operated for the last half century. I'm not! Too much bureaucracy and waste... How many of you actually know anything about other candidates' platforms NOT from the Rep or Dem parties? How about from candidates' own mouths and IN CONTEXT, not what you heard from the pundits on tv and radio??? You've all abandoned your civic duties as responsible voters and now are media pawns. YOU ARE WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE USA AND I AM SCARED OF YOUR LAZINESS AND INCOMPETENCE!!!!
Re: DISGUSTED WITH ALL OF YOUR MUDSLINGING!!!!
dod
Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:21 AM
So what
Navy
Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:53 PM
I'll vote for McCain, but I'm resigned to Obama getting the Presidency. I guess I can stand on my head for 4 years with no problem. It'll come to an end sooner or later.
taxing our health benefits
Forest Service
Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:53 AM
I hope most of you federal employees have been carefully listening to McCain's health care proposals. He gives us 2 options. He would tax our employer-provided benefits (saying that currently it's a tax break for the wealthy. Are you wealthy?) His other alternative would give us a $5000 tax credit so that we could drop our employer-provided health insurance and purchase insurance on our own. Beware of that carrot because not only will you pay far more than $5000 for family insurance, but you will also lose the benefit of carrying your federal health insurance into retirement. McCain's plan will cost us dearly.
Experience
HUD
Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:55 AM
What good is lots of experience, if it is bad experience. I want someone smarter than me as President/Vice President. I am a conservative Republican woman that is voting for Obama/Biden.
Re: Experience
EPA
Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:58 PM
who will receive my vote for president.
USDA
Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:57 AM
I think both candidates have a lot to offer. I will vote for John Mc Cain.
Presidential Survey
CMS/DHHS (retired)
Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:17 AM
I am a registered Independent. This will be the easiest choice I have ever made. I'm voting for Obama & Biden. Why? To end the war in Iraq, restore confidence in the U.S. internationally, pursue a sound economic and environmental policy, middle class tax cuts, easier access to affordable health care, a better student loan program, and avoiding a third middle east oil war with Iran.
Re: Presidential Survey
DOD
Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:31 PM
Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt
NIH
Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:32 PM
As a scientist, I look for facts, not emotional gut reactions. When someone tries to sell me something based only upon emotion (esp. fear) then I know something is wrong with their product and I need to look harder. Four years ago, the presidential campaign came down to fear and doubt. Remember the color-coded terror alert system? It is amazing how quickly that went away after the Republican's "fear" of Bush losing re-election went away. The very same people who ran Bush's 2004 campaign are now bringing us Fear Obama 2008. Look harder people- what "new and improved" Republican product are you really buying, when it is the exact same operatives behind the scenes? These same people will be in the next government! And what did you buy with your Republican 2004 vote? Terror criminal #1 bin Laden is still uncaught. We are still stuck in Iraq. At $10Trillion, our national debt is 2x what it was in 2000. Our economy is in the trash after 8 years of (McCain-supported) deregulation. THINK!!
Re: Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt
DHS
Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:28 PM
Re: Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt
NIH
Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:07 PM
Re: Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt
DOD
Fri Oct 31, 2008 4:25 PM
Wrong. The table for the mortgage meltdown that led to the current economic crisis was set in the 90s when the Clinton Administration put pressure on Fannie Mae to expand mortgage loans to low and moderate income people.
The Bush Administration has been warning congress repeatedly since 2001 that Fannie and Freddie were getting out of control and needed oversight and regulation. Congress was warned in face to face hearings, in reports specifically addressing the issue, even in budget proposals. Despite all of the warnings by the Bush Administration Congress failed to act until it was too late to avoid the situation we now find ourselves in.
Re: Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt
DOA
Sat Nov 1, 2008 10:17 AM
Middle Class caused this mess
DoD
Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:27 PM
I love how people blame Bush for the economy, and no one seems to recognize that this economy is the result of millions of people buying into a lifestyle that they couldn't afford! I'm not a Bush fan but the economy is failing because people got too far in debt. Yes, I recognize that the war is not completely independent of the financial mess but the economy went south just as foreclosures were rising. There is a direct correlation with middle class irresponsibility and the economy. The housing market and the economy have been booming up until the last 6 months and this war has been going on for some time now.
Stop blaming the president and the Government for YOUR bad choices. I will be voting for McCain. There was a scandal a few years ago in my career field and McCain really impressed me with his rentless pursuit to make things right and hold people accountable. Until this election. . . . Barack Hussein who? I will not vote for a socialist.
Re: Middle Class caused this mess
USDA
Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:07 PM
I can tell you know nothing that has been learned out of your own desire for truth, only what has been taught and fed to you. You media/campaign pawn...stop throwing words around that you hear on tv!!!
Re: Middle Class caused this mess
dod
Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:29 PM
Don't omit historical fact just because it doesn't jive with your political opinion.
Socialism
DCMA
Mon Nov 3, 2008 9:25 AM
When the first immigrants to these shores landed and began to grow their food, the captain stored all the food in a central location so that the food could be distributed equally. As time went on, he found that fewer and fewer people were growing food, but continued to receive food from the central food distribution point. Sound familiar....economic wealth redistribution is the same....a disencentive to work. We found this out when welfare was such a major player in our economy, that we had families on welfare for generations, that taught their offspring the ins and outs of the system. Income redistribution has never worked...never will for long. For those driving to be like Europe...take a look at a system that has high unemployment, a stagnating economy, etc. So vote for Obama, your children and grandchildren will pay.... For those Christians supporting Obama, how you going to answer when asked "Why did you send my children to death without a complaint"? Think about it.....