Great article.
I've witnessed this first hand: several of my managers and colleagues bully one of our secretaries. It's gotten ridiculous, and upper management and our union have done nothing to help her.
Re: Thank you
Fed DoD Wed Dec 3, 2008 9:02 AM
Then that secy does have some avenues of redress:
- Is she being bullied in a way that singles her out? IOW, is she the oldest staffer, or the only staffer of color, etc? Then the abuse becomes discriminatory.
- She should ask her union local to see if the misbehavior has violated the existing labor agreement--then she can file a grievance. Or, if it's really egregious, it can be classified as an unfair labor practice. She should also consult a labor law atty if all else fails.
She's likely lost hope b/c of mgt's misdeeds. I know b/c it happened to me too. I was singled out b/c of physical disabilities that required surgical intervention, and I was denied leave and accommodation. I got lucky, though: the supvr was a crook, I caught and "outed" him, and he's no longer in place.
Not that others didn't try to remove me, despite over 20 yrs of exemplary federal service. But I knew how to defend myself. I was just unlucky enough to get old, good work notwithstanding...
Re: Thank you
Patient Support VA Wed Dec 3, 2008 9:56 AM
You evidently feel sympathy for this worker. Many times I've been in a situation where if just one person would corroborate what I've said, it would've meant everything. Perhaps you could at least offer testimony on her behalf or even file a hostile workplace suit. Sometimes people need someone to stand up for them. You could be the one.
Re: Thank you
Union Official DoD Wed Dec 3, 2008 3:21 PM
And before you or anyone steps up to the plate, remember:
Any time you take a stand to defend yourself or help someone else, expect consequences. Forget about promotions b/c it won't happen. Just remember that if this is happening to you, you aren't getting promoted anyway, so you may as well pursue the matter.
Your wkg r'ships will likely change, and it 's a good way to find out which co-workers "have your back" (if any, b/c I know I don't).
It can get ugly, b/c even if the slime is a bona-fide bully and incompetent, mgt will protect him/her b/c, incompetent or not, he's/she's THEIR incompetent bully so they're obligated to stand by them.
And remember that there's more than 1 way to win. No matter which redress you take--grievance, complaint, ULP--SOMEthing will change as a result. It'll take time, but if you can hang tough and assess the Big Picture, you'll see the truth of that statement in due time.
Bullying
HR Consultant Various Federal agencies Wed Dec 3, 2008 8:28 AM
This is an excellent article. The subject of bullying should be included in all workplace violence training. Agencies having tables of penalties that include engaging in workplace violence should consider including it as an example. I experienced it as a Federal employee and has seen others suffer from it as well.
Bullying
Labor Relations Assistant IRS Wed Dec 3, 2008 8:43 AM
My Supervisor has told me that "I should be thankful that he selected me cause no one else wants me." He has told me that "I will never be a Specialist because I do not impress him enough." He has his clerks going through my desk constantly. He has made unreasonable demands on my job. All this was as a result of my standing up for another female employee because he was bullying her with regards to her desk. He came through and told her that she had to get everything personal off her desk and then he told her he was coming after me. So when he did I asked where the Directive was that said I could not have anything personal on my desk and he said he issued a Directive and I had to follow it. I could go on but those are just some of the highlights. Yes, I am sick every day coming to work, I cry all the way home. I get no praise, always telling me what I did wrong. I have notified his superiors and have filed and EEO complaint.
Re: Bullying
Program Analyst OPM Wed Dec 3, 2008 9:49 AM
At least you have taken some recourse. Take it from me, I worked with someone like this, he was eventually canned. This guy's time will come. Same stupid arrogant crap--thinking that just because he is the "manager" he can change agency policy like what is allowed on desks or break times. He doens't have the right or the authority to even make those claims...unless, of course, it is obscene or it interferes with your work.
Workplace Bullying
Paralegal Specialist USPS Wed Dec 3, 2008 8:46 AM
I was the victim of a workplace bully, a subordinate who was supposed to be supporting me in a project, but instead did her best to sabotage the entire enterprise, because she was disappointed that she had not been allowed to handle it herself, instead of being assigned to assist me. She delayed performing requested tasks for weeks, then turned in subpar work that I either had to return to her for corrections -- requiring additional delays -- or fix myself. If I dared to inquire about the status of one of these tasks, she would bawl me out and suggest I might want to do it myself. When I did it myself, she would also bawl me out and complain to management that I was trying to undermine HER. Management dismissed my complaints about her as some type of personality conflict. I finally had to take the bull by the horns and send the offender a blistering email -- laying it all out -- copied to all management, to get some relief. They split the tasks among us, instead of firing her.
Bullies
Material Handler USDA Forest Service Wed Dec 3, 2008 8:51 AM
I work with three male bullies, one of which is considered a semi-permanent employee and the other two are permanent employees like myself. We also have an instigator in the same shop. The supervision is passive. I am the only female employee on the warehouse floor. One of the bullies is my Workl leader, but all three have exhibited the examples listed in your article. We currently have 15 employees and there is no morale. We have all said that the WL needs anger management classes that should be tied to his appraisal. Then mgmt needs to send him to leadership classes. He leads by fear and intimidation, but I am the only that is expected to lead by example.
Re: Bullies
Former Union Rep.-Currently a Supervisor USFS Wed Dec 3, 2008 12:34 PM
I can't speak for every agency but I can for the FS union. There are good reps out there. I became a very educated one as a result of my own experiences. I've had some real winners for supervisors. Learn your rights! Read the Master Agreement. With the internet you can locate a good rep in your region. Document, include witnesses. Documentation can go a loooong ways in defending yourself. Empower yourself so you can feel in control. Use the EAP program. Don't let the bully win at their game. There are good supervisors out there. It's not all bad!
Bullying
worker government Wed Dec 3, 2008 8:54 AM
Your comments are on point.
Management will not stop an incompetent manager from bullying a worker. This manager did things against the norm and violated the rules. Management said it was in his power or burried the actions with baloney.
When management does not want to promote a worker, management will find a way to do so. When management wants to promote an incompetent worker who sucks up to the manager it will find a way to do so. I have seen both.
I will not go into details at this time to remain unidentifiable, as I have been retaliated against.
WORKPLACE BULLYING
PROGRAM SPECIALIST OSM Wed Dec 3, 2008 9:05 AM
Years back I experienced this type of behavior from of all people a supervisor. Untill it happens to you, it is difficult to expain how it can and does have a psychological affect on you. It affects all aspects of your job from how you perform your duties, to your social interactions with other staff employees (or lack of) etc. You become paranoid. I am now of retirement age with service time and still harbor those feelings however to a much lesser extent. I must add this supervisor had to take a disability retirement years back due to a psychological condition but the damage was already done.
Re: WORKPLACE BULLYING
SCARED VA Wed Dec 3, 2008 10:03 AM
I TOTALLY identify with what you're saying. I, too, had a supervisor who bullied me, harassed me, and fit nearly every example. She tried to get me fired by lying, which was something I never expected. Since then, I've become very paranoid and it interferes with what I do. The worst part is, I got a reputation that is with me still. My self-confidence has been shattered and I can't wait to retire.
Re: WORKPLACE BULLYING
SSC FS Fri Dec 5, 2008 10:09 AM
I, too, totally identify. Though not at my current agency, I had a supervisor who bullied me, lied about my work in front of our superiors and coworkers (with me in the meeting) to cover her inefficiency. I might add that for the previous 12 yrs, (she was a new supervisor from the FS) I received outstanding/superior evals and recd special awards for taking on addl work and recd perf awards each yr. I had been dealing with the 'bullying' and inefficiencies of this supv for a long time. When I saw the Director's face, I couldn't take it any more, so I 'inappropriately' stomped out of the mtg and went home. I couldn't believe he may actually believe her instead of me, a 13 yr empl w/outstanding work history. The Dir later told me he was trying to support her/give her a chance. I kind of understand his efforts but I ultimately had to leave the job I loved 6 mos later. The 'Bullier' later filed a grievance against this Dir for non-support. 5 Yrs later I still hurt terribly!
Inadvertent bullying
Acct Tech Forest Service Wed Dec 3, 2008 9:05 AM
Excellent article, especially the encouragement to managers and supervisors to examine their own behavior. I think sometimes the seemingly 'natural' inclination of humans to create cliques and 'in groups' extends to management personnel - they are doing what seems secure and familiar to them. However, it can have devastating effect on subordinates who aren't part of the 'in group'. I have seen it in effect in my own department.
Work Place Bullying
Quality Assurance Specialist DCMA Wed Dec 3, 2008 9:06 AM
This article is very interesting however it does not point out, at least I didn't see it, that a person can be accused of being a bully when you react to comments or lies spread by the office suck-butt and every office has one. In my case I have ignored this jerk in my office for years but recent actions and distortion of facts concerning my actual work task were blown out of proportion to management. Management chose to believe there "golden knee-pad" boy which resulted in me being reassigned to a lesser job where I am assigned task that require much less skill and training I possess. When I mentioned that I wanted to confront this individual face to face in a controlled area were all facts could be presented I was accused of Bullying. Finally I want to say that all I wanted was a chance to confront my accuser but after not being given that chance I can understand why someone would want to be very much more assertive in a confrontation.
workplace bullying
tech usda Wed Dec 3, 2008 9:28 AM
I worked in an office that was closed and merged with another. since the first day I walked into the new office I got 16 of the 19 examples. I thank God, my Doctor and one co-worker that stood by me. I carpool with that one co-worker; work talk was off limits in the vehicle. That helped me get home without not wanting to kill my husband. My Doctor bless her heart got me in immediately one day, when I called her crying. She signed me up for stress reduction classess. She said I was the happiest person she had ever met, and I needed to learn how to deal with what was going on. And I prayed every night. Well, after one year, one of the people maybe the second worst offender came to me and appoligized. She told me my old manager had started spreading rumors about me before the office even merged. There is finally less stress in the office, and most of us are working as a team. The old manager is having a rough time. But, I am being business professional with her.
This is my experience too
Anonymous Anonymous Wed Dec 3, 2008 9:34 AM
I currently work in a federal agency where this type of behavior is prevalent and acceptable. I am a victim of this kind of behavior, and I am aggressively applying for another job in light of this climate. Despite the fact that I have a very strong, positive work ethic, I hold an MBA, and have demonstrated a consistent contribution to my current federal agency, I am still the target of this type of abuse. It is unbearable, and those who engage in this kind of treatment (at ALL levels) should be held accountable.
Workplace Bullying
Peon VA Wed Dec 3, 2008 10:04 AM
Thank you, thank you for helping to bring this to light. As others have said, until it happens to you it is hard to understand the devastating effects it can have. I felt like I was in the twilight zone - nothing made sense. Targets, take heart - you are targeted many times BECAUSE you care, are conscientious, are competent, and you are threatening to those who aren't. And to the person who was called a bully because he merely reacted to bullying - that itself is a bullying tactic! When I retire from this bully-ridden environment, I will make it my mission to work towards anti-bullying legislation. Europe has it and knows this behavior cannot be tolerated in any civilized country.
Re: Workplace Bullying
Registered Nurse VA Thu Dec 4, 2008 7:57 AM
You are not a peon, despite the way you may feel!! You are insightful and see the way caring, compassionate workers are subjected to abuse and bullying. I bet you have heard this line," It's the VA way or the highway!" I agree with most everything you have stated, with the exception of waiting until you retire from the VA, to fight for anti-bullying legislation. We need to stick together and pursue change now. The veterans and staff deserve our action. Good luck to you!
Re: Workplace Bullying
Diversity Manager DOL Thu Dec 4, 2008 7:44 PM
What Europe are you talking about?? Germans, French and italians are worse at this than any place I've worked in the US
Re: Workplace Bullying
Registered Nurse VA Fri Dec 5, 2008 7:45 AM
Diversity Manager is retired from the military and is not a federal worker!!!! The VA has many programs to help its veterans and I urge "Diversity Manager" to give them a call! It is clear he is in need of psychological help. He is also a dishonor to the men and women who have served in our military and deserve our full respect and assistance!
Re: Workplace Bullying
Thorn in the Side DOD Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:46 AM
"Diversity Manager" also works for the Post Office and has a couple of other jobs. He's a troll.
Workplace bullying is psychological aggression
Steward & Mediation Rep, AFGE 12 OSHA Wed Dec 3, 2008 10:07 AM
Thank you for shedding light on the serious problem of workplace psychological aggression. I now prefer this term to bullying, because what happens at work is ordinarily very different from the bullying of the school yard. A school yard bully can injure a child. A boss who is psychologically aggressive can injure a worker and his/her family economically, psychologically, and physically (as the worker becomes ill). I saw all of this at the Department of Labor, which led me to conduct a study on it. The Labor and Employment Relations Association invited me, and AFGE 12 sent me, to present my paper at the LERA annual conference January 2007. The paper was the groundwork for our "Proposal to Secretary of Labor Elaine Chao on Workplace Bullying and Psychological Harassment." The proposal package is at htt://L12Bullying.googlepages.com. We invite people to read it and link to it. Also, people can file complaints under their Department's workplace violence programs. It will fit.
Being bullied
Registered Nurse VA Wed Dec 3, 2008 10:25 AM
Your article describes most of the acts that management has subjected me to since I requested a reasonable accommodation based on mental disability. AFGE Union has also been involved in these tactics. My complaints of discrimination with retaliation have gone formal, however I hear the EEO process takes years. I can not afford to quit with 2 kids in college, nor can I afford to take much more of this abuse. Any ideas or suggestions?
Re: Being bullied
Benefits Counselor (Retired) VA Wed Dec 3, 2008 2:38 PM
I had a couple of supervisors who would make public comments about performance issues. I would always ask, loud enough for those nearby to hear, that the conversation should be moved to a more private location. That pinned a "failure to ensure privacy" on the supe. I kept a steno pad handy and would pull it out and start with a notation of the date and time (took a long look at my watch before writing the first notes). This put them on notice that I would be in posession of notes of this event and who knows how many others I wrote out of their sight. Don't be in a hurry with the converstion. Clearly and obviously be taking verbatim notes. The thought of being confronted at some later meeting with who knows who takes the wind out of their sails. Keep the steno pad handy. Be ostentatious about taking the notes. If you are asked about the practice just say you are documenting...period! Let their imaginations run wild.
Re: Being bullied
Diversity Manager DOL Thu Dec 4, 2008 7:51 PM
Its too bad that Vets needing care aren't taking notes as well. Wonder how many at the VA would be working if the were allowed to voice their opinion of the quality of care they received.
Maybe bulling is needed when dealing with a work force that doesn't do its job
Re: Being bullied
clerk IRS Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:43 AM
dont waist your time with the EEO, I went that route after being bullied by a yound new inexerpienced kid. He took all my duties away, and gave to the sweet young 20 year olds. Oh, did I say I had 21 years experience and he only had 5?
Needless to say, I turned to the Union, which the steward was worthless. So with the encouragement of some workers in a unit and department other then mine, who saw the aggressive behaviror towards me, encouraged me to file with the EEO. I did. Relatiaition is huge from managment, and the sweet yound things that the prior manager gave special special favors to, were constangly putting me down, yes, they missed the prior manager and all the attention he gave them. Oh did I mention, managment gave him a promotion to get him out of our unit, which is what the EEO officer told me usually happens at the IRS. This inferrior slug of a manager, destroyed my evaluation that took me 21 years to get in the exceeds bracket, and my performance awards.
Re: Being bullied
clerk IRS Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:49 AM
He lowered my evaluation from 4.6 out of 5.0.to a 1.8.
Yeah, he got away with it. I filed with the EEO on March 28, 2007. Our federal court hearing is scheduled for March 2, 2009. Yes, two years, $3400 of attorney fees, and I just found out, in a discrimination case, you win nothing. Even if you prove your case and the evidence is in your favor, you get nothing. No attorney fees paid, no compensatory damages, which means, I could not get my evaluation reinstated, my performance awards will not be reinstaded. And management makes ways for me to fail, so they can now substantiate lowereing my evaluation, which he never had before.
With my eval in the toilet, I cannot put in for other jobs. Oh, I did put in for other jobs and when called to get offers, I found out the detailed manager behind the "slug", turned them away and told them my CJE's were so low I could not go. Which personnel told me is illegal. OK, this is all illegal, but the truth is, the laws protect the behavior
Bullying
Program Analyst USDA Wed Dec 3, 2008 10:28 AM
I too am a victim of this kind of behavior. The manager criticizes and belittles my knowledge and work products privately and in front of coworkers and other managers. Since he behaves inconsistently, my stomach clenches whenever I need to go to his office. At times he is very complimentary and effusive. I do not know when I will leave his office with a smile or shaking.
He admits that I have a very strong work ethic and always get the job done. This abusive environment has increased my stress level and contributed to depressions. I am only a few years away from retirement.
Work Place Bullying
Cost Analyst AMSCC-RCC-SF Wed Dec 3, 2008 10:33 AM
If you suspect work place bullying and you want to do something about it where do you start? How can you prove it's taking place. Do you go to the IG, Union or EEO? Going to management and/or using the chain of command doesn't seem to be the answer.
Re: Work Place Bullying
Fed DoD Wed Dec 3, 2008 3:15 PM
NEVER go through your chain of command. Once you've tipped them off, then you've given them more ammo to use against you.
Some feds here commented that their union is ineffectual. They fail to see that their local IS its members and/or bargaining unit. If the union isn't doing its job, then it's up to the workers to see that it does. Get involved, ask ?s, demand accountability.
But first--JOIN. That's not a union "plug," but you must take responsibility for yourselves. Yes, the local must represent all of its BU, but members will get more attention b/c they had enough faith to join up.
Visit your local, get a rep or steward who can explain what your options may be, if any. I say that b/c there has to be a "hook" to latch onto before you start your defense.
And that's not hyperbole: defending yourself against a bully, who's protected by mgt, can be an ugly and draining fight. But you'll be relieved for standing up for yourself.
Bullying
Program Assistant DeBakey VA Medical Center Wed Dec 3, 2008 11:17 AM
I read through your article with interest. Apparently I have experienced workplace bullying in several arenas and did not realize it. In my opinion some people are just not nice people and are propelled in varying degrees to try and atagonize and upset people for various reasons. They can only be successful if others participate and not able to think for themselves and keep quite. Being excluded from workplace social events can be disheartening but often is no real reflection on the person excluded but a truer reflection on the ones allowing and participating in the exclusion! The same is true for workplace gossip and rumors.
Protected Bullying - A twist
Anonymous Anonymous Wed Dec 3, 2008 11:25 AM
The twist here is what if the bully is the President of the union, whose bullying of managers and supervisors, is considered protected. The FLRA's assessments of "flagrant misconduct" practically require an assault, or a racial incident, before saying something crossed the line. Let's say the union president is DIAGNOSED with bipolar disorder or borderline personality disorder causing the person to adopt an irrational anger and victim mentality for every perceived slight, whether real or not. In short encounters, this person appears "passionate" about issues, but only after longer interactions does the psychosis show. AND, the fact of the diagnosed disorder is protected by Privacy laws. Even the managers and supervisors subject to the bullying are not allowed to know the "real" issue. The attacks are rampant and have everyone's blood pressure up. The constant and personal attacks in emails, union newsletters, and personal interactions are "protected bullying." Thoughts please!
Re: Protected Bullying - A twist
anon DOD Wed Dec 3, 2008 3:19 PM
Check someone on BEHAVIOR! and JOB PERFORMANCE! Not diagnosis, that ought to be private anyway.
I am DIAGNOSED bipolar and when a supe was (unlawfully but safely,) guilty of "accidentally" letting my diagnosis out, I was in for hell!
My BEHAVIOR was within acceptable norms but anything, ANYTHING, that annoyed me was "because I was BP!" I was not allowed "normal" emotions.
My boss when I was triggered and diagnosed was WONDERFUL! He knew I did a good job, gave me the time to work on treatment, same as if I had cancer or a broken leg, and NEVER used it against me.
The next boss, after BRAC moved me to a new field, was fine. She also looked at performance and behavior.
Her replacement was EVIL! He knew my diagnosis by the meds disclosure in my file, (required for the job,) He harassed me for anything and everything. He was trying to drive me to breakdown/suicide attempt as he did to his clinically depressed clerk.
Union/EEO were completely ineffective.
It's Happening Here on A Grand Scale
Quality Assurance Specialist Defense Contract Management Agency Wed Dec 3, 2008 11:39 AM
This is EXACTLY what is occurring in our office to many individuals. It is debilitating. It's not uncommon to hear people sobbing in their cubicles in this office. One day this past summer, an air conditioner compressor exploded in the ceiling. People ran for cover and hid under their desks-we thought it was gunfire and that someone here finally snapped! The young try to leave and the folks close to retirement such as myself just count the days...
Bullying
HR Manager (Retired) DoD Wed Dec 3, 2008 11:45 AM
Bottom line is bullying has no place any workplace. Employees who feel that they are being bullied should immediatley report it to the superiors (go all the way to the top), HR office, IG, and law enforcement authorities. Be sure to provide enough details so that those responsible for investigating your complaint can do so effectively and completely and you can protect yourself from less than honest investigations. Do not stand for this - take action and take it immediately.
I retired 15 months ago because of a new bully manager. He yelled and screamed saying i wasn't doing my job. He actually just transfered in and had no training or understanding in the complex area I had been working in (and had established the process in DOE) for 20 years. He was taking advice from a cut throat co worker who wanted my job ,and being an accountant, had poor judement regarding people.
When he yelled, I took the early out and he was in shock. I'm lucky my pension is twice the national income family average.
SIONRA LOOSER
Re: Just happened to me, sionara
Frustrated Fed United States Marshals Service Fri Dec 5, 2008 9:01 PM
I am in the same boat, new supervisor who has successfully run me out with hostility and aggression. I am now on medical leave and he is threatening to terminate me. I have 29-1/2 years of federal service and was just wondering what type of early out you pursued. Disability, discontinued service?
Bullying
Editor DoD Wed Dec 3, 2008 12:26 PM
As a former victim of a bullying boss, I can relate to a lot of the things cited in the article, but I do take issue with a few things. I did try to address the bullying through meetings with a union rep and talking to various other people, but in the end, the only real solution was to leave the job (even though it took almost 5 years). I knew if anyone did call this boss on the carpet, she'd only find another way to retaliate. HOWEVER, I did find that once I changed my own reaction (e.g., not crying when she verbally attacked me), her desire to humiliate became far less "fun" for her and she did it less often. Also, I think it's unfair for the author to blame bullying regarding the kids who went on a shooting spree at their schools. There has to be a screw loose to begin with for a child to do that. Finally, for me personally, as I look back to the experience with the "bully boss," I find that I am a stronger, more assertive person as a result of having to deal with it.
Not all cases are Bullying
Employee Relations Advisor Government Wed Dec 3, 2008 1:26 PM
From experience with complaints of bullying I have found many of the things are preceived by individuals who may not be the most steller performers and when confronted, immediatly look for someone to blame, usually the supervisor. Looking at the list you present, I too could say; yes that happened to me, and that one and that one, but I know if I were to examine them closely I can see that it was probably me not taking responsibilty for what I was doing.
While I believe this is a real problem and I believe there are bullys in t he work place I caution not to jump to conclusions.
It is NOT Just Supervisors/Managers
General Employee DoD Wed Dec 3, 2008 1:27 PM
I work in a small organization; less than 25 people. Our main tyrant is the second lowest graded employee; our admin assistant. The backing she gets from our director has us all believing that she has some sort of influence over him; he is highly regarded and in all other ways the perfect supervisor/manager. He is respectful, tolerant, supportive, intelligent, fair, and hardworking and rewards hard work. However, he is completely blind to this woman's abhorrent behavior and treatment of others. Because he ignores her intimidation, others have started behaving in the same vein. Many have learned that if they suck up to her and emulate the bullying tactics, they will get her backing and thus the backing of the director. There have been shouting matches between her and our second in command, but he loses all arguments when the big boss gets involved. She has essentially castrated every branch chief, every one that might have had a chance to stop her.
Coworkers
Nameless, Faceless Nobody DOD Wed Dec 3, 2008 3:27 PM
Right now it is the supervisor making the entire place feel hostile. One new but senior employee is also being ugly and rude to anyone who isn't close to his grade or above it. He denies, with the supe's assent, the parts of our jobs that make it worth doing and make us valuable in the employement market. And is verbally rude about it! He is harder to live with than the over-controlling supe.
Union is getting involved but the rest of management will support the supe, the employee being rude will be supported by the supe, life is getting ugly.
Right now, those in jobs that can, are simply transferring as fast as they can. Those like me, have their resumes out but realize that the current market only wants people with degrees. I would have to take a pay cut, (nope!) to get out quickly.
No one cares.
Union is pretty ineffective.
I survive it so my children can eat.
Workplace Bullying
Advisor Anonymous Wed Dec 3, 2008 3:39 PM
Excellent article! I consider myself truly blessed as I am no longer with the agency where I experienced the most awful treatment. Like many who have been, and still are being victimized, I did not then and probably will never know "why." In reading many of the comments on this article, I noticed that many of the comments came from people at my former agency. With upper level management being unresponsive to my requests for assistance, the EEO rep not being able to categorize the problem and pretty much sending me away with no assistance, and my not being quite eligible for retirement, I left the Federal government for a time. I now believe that the EEO rep probably got stuck on the "fine line" theory. There was no line. Since I left, I learned that the "abuser" has simply moved on to another victim. This space does not allow me to list all the offenses committed by the abuser. Hopefully, the new victim will read this article and continue to pursue efforts to "right" a serious wrong.
Re Not all cases are bullying
Engineer AF AF Wed Dec 3, 2008 10:21 PM
This is to employee relations advisor. I think you misunderstand the point. Of course everyone can pick specific things but if you can honestly agree with the comment, then it wasn't bullying. However, this is where you misunderstand -- others assuming the target is a poor performer is how bullies can hide.
Like many have said, until you've experienced it, you can't believe what it's like. And often it is so subtle and insidious, only the target knows it's happening. Even then it may take a while for the target to understand what's happening to them. I would have never believed it either until it happened to me. The effects on my health, family and career are criminal. I still have the effects of stress and it has taken years for my career to partially recover. Took me two years to get out of the situation and even today four years later I am on the lookout for the knife to slip into my back and document every discussion, email, etc that happens.
Re: Re Not all cases are bullying
Editor DoD Thu Dec 4, 2008 10:00 AM
Good point and thank you for replying to the employee relations manager. Although several people have mentioned the "subtleties" in bullying, I think it's pretty darn clear when a supervisor is yelling at someone, loudly enough for the whole office to hear, that he/she is a BULLY, plain and simple! That kind of behavior should not be tolerated ANYWHERE - in the government or private industry.
Rewarded for bullying
Chapter President Gulf States IRS Thu Dec 4, 2008 5:41 AM
In our agency, the management bullies are rewarded for their (mis)behavior. Many years ago, I was a manager and I witnessed the then Division Chief tell a female manager that she needed to let her employees know who was boss and do whatever it takes.
As a union rep, we are dealing with a group manager bully right now. This manager gets awarded for his behavior, but we are reacting to every incident with grievances or other actions. Eventually, someone will get tired of all the paperwork.
About time someone called it!
Author & Consultant Peer Abuse Know More! Thu Dec 4, 2008 7:20 AM
I am Elizabeth Bennett and I also work in the field of bullying and peer abuse. I call this exactly what it is; ABUSE.
These childhood bullies grow worse as they mature. They find more sophisticated ways of dealing with their targets. They are also your white collar criminals. Racketeering, embezzlement....its there.
These adults who are being bullied more than likely are Adult Survivors of Peer Abuse. They just get retraumatized in the workplace.
The psychological impact of all of this is unbelievable. Plus, companies loose money when caught up in all of this. Work production decreases and workers wind up sick as a result.
Thanks for your well written and insightful article. Its much appreciated.
Federal Employee Representative in EEO/MSPB USDA/Retired Thu Dec 4, 2008 1:08 PM
To Ms. Bennett:
I have represented federal employees for 15 years on these issues. I am currently working on a project to submit to the Obama administration for prevention and elimination of federal workplace bullying. I would like to speak with you. If you are willing, please contact me at: lesa@snowcrest.net Thank you...lesa donnelly
Re: About time someone called it!
Registered Nurse VA Thu Dec 4, 2008 2:47 PM
I pray the two of you can join forces and make some positive changes in the workplace environment. Many thanks!!!
Re: About time someone called it!
Diversity Manager DOL Thu Dec 4, 2008 7:59 PM
Maybe if the fed government changes its hiring rules and brings in more adults without the entitlement mentality the need to bully will decrease.
remember it takes two to tango and there is usually a reason why this is happening. I can't see any manager going home at night thinking who am I going to bully tomorrow. If its causing health issue maybe just maybe the employee needs to find a career more suited to their talents
Re: About time someone called it!
IT Drone DoD Tue Dec 9, 2008 10:45 AM
OMFG, Diversity Manager!! I just bet you were the bully in your agency, weren't you? YOU are one of the persons the article is about!
If you don't think managers plan who to pick on, then you are truly naive. My cubicle is positioned in such a way that I end up hearing a lot of conversations I don't want to. Some of those conversations revolve around how to get rid of some person a supervisor doesn't like. I get up and tell those people that if something does happen, I have no problem with testifying on behalf of the person they are plotting against.
I know a situation where a supervisor is harassing an employee by calling his personal cell at all hours and leaving nasty messages, posting rude comments on his family's MySpace page, refusing to help his wife when she comes in for legitimate business reasons, calling their children names... You get the picture.
You think that doesn't hurt morale or make people sick?
WRONG! It isn't the employee who needs a different job.
bullying in absence
environmental planner doi Thu Dec 4, 2008 8:08 AM
a few years ago, i was the subject of bullying. the bully would wait until i was out of the office, and then, go to my boss and undermine the work i had done. by the time i got back to the office, all the work i had carefully finished, was torn apart and in a shambles. it left me feeling as if i was the problem, and not the "bully".
this person would also bring members of the public to my office or have them telephone me, with the "bully's" agenda.
it was quite an experience. one, I do not want to ever repeat. thankfully, that bully, retired and i have received awards for doing good work!
psychological violence
retired letter carrier USPS Thu Dec 4, 2008 8:54 AM
In a station with all men, I was one of two female letter carriers -- the other was married to one of the carriers. The supervisor said he would give me "easy" overtime if I put my name on the OT list. I did. I thought I would get to stay inside and case bulk mail. He took me downstairs when I got in one day, and when I rejected him, he sent me out in the rain to carry more mail. Needless to say, I took my name off the OT list and never put it back on again. This disrespect for women at the Postal Service is still there today. I don't understand why women are treated so very badly -- not allowed to talk like the men -- always talked down to when spoken to -- taken into the office and asked "are you going to cry?" No one has any idea the discrimination toward women that goes on there.
Bullying
Clerical FedGovt Thu Dec 4, 2008 9:02 AM
I experience workplace bullying often by my supervisor, her "favorite", other supervisors to the effect of excluding me on things I should know, talking to me just in e-mails, yelling, never saying favorable things to me, my supervisor questioning me constantly about trivial things just to show me she's the supervisor (make me feel like a child), constant "tattling" on me, not saying hello or good-bye. I do an excellent job, always can be depended on, conscientious, accurate and don't deserve to be treated the way I am. I always hear about sexual harassment - what about regular harassment - that is not addressed in the Federal government. I even made my supervisor's supervisor aware of the situation which basically went ignored too.
Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome
Biologist DOI Thu Dec 4, 2008 9:12 AM
Since the one job that I had where I was Harassed not only sexually but also emotionally, I have had numerous problems in all my other positions. Just the other day I was travelling with other employees and was bullied. Every word that I said, this person said: “NO YOU ARE WRONG”. I shut up and have not spoken to that person since. I cannot wait for those 37 months till retirement.
harrassment
employee post office amc Thu Dec 4, 2008 9:21 AM
if you go to the lv nevada amc you will see a satellite
voice transmitter used to remove employees on the floor. Extreme harrassment at its best. Condoned and
createdfor the use of management. They create there own proplems.
Bullying Bosses
worker bee Fed Agency Thu Dec 4, 2008 11:23 AM
I had the displeasure of working for a manager who was a bully. One of the scariest aspects was that you never knew what would set him off. When he went off, there was yelling, profanity, slamming doors, and he broke a phone by slamming it down on a coworker's desk. He was "counseled" but nothing was done to really establish and enforce a code of acceptable behavior.
Now I work where another manager is bullying one of her employees. Social isolation, unrealistic deadlines, assigning disproportionate workloads - she's done it all. She does it in staff meetings with the rest of her group (happily, I'm not in that group), but everyone is afraid to stand up for the one employee because they don't want the irrational wrath of the manager turned on them. The union and EEO rep have done nothing except tell her to "document" and "that's just the way she is" (Well, in THAT case, bullying is acceptable, if that's just the way she is!) It's tragic.
Workplace Bullying
Federal Employee Representative in EEO/MSPB USDA/Retired Thu Dec 4, 2008 12:48 PM
Mr. Oppermann is very accurate in his description of workplace bullying and its ramifications. One thing that wasn't addressed is that in the federal employment culture, workplace bullying is consistently practiced by management as a tool to influence and control employees. It is used as a preventative measure to keep employees in line, and a retaliatory measure against those who challenge management decisions, disagree with workplace norms, or file grievances/ EEO complaints. I've been representing employees for 15 years, first as an employee and now as a retiree. Many EEO complaints are actually workplace bullying in lieu of discrimination but the employee has no avenue for bullying and files through EEOC. Three years ago, Marlene Brawn (CA BLM) comitted suicide due to workplace bullying. She wasn't the first and will not be the last. Employees lives are devastated. Billions of dollars are wasted yearly on this problem. Cultural change is needed - and now! Lesa Donnelly
Re: Workplace Bullying
Diversity Manager DOL Thu Dec 4, 2008 8:03 PM
Since for 2007 only 1.7% of all EEO complaints filed by CS were found in their favor. Think maybe rather than a real problem we are dealing with hurt feelings??
Re: Workplace Bullying
Federal Employee Representative in EEO/MSPB USDA/Retired Mon Dec 8, 2008 12:17 PM
This is my reply to "Diversity Manager." I think you completely missed the point of the article. Workplace bullying is not "hurt feelings" at all. It is an insidious way for a manager (or coworker) to cause psychological damage to an employee. Multiple studies show that after physical needs are met, a human's greatest need is for acceptance and belonging. The workplace bully works to undermine these needs. One can look at the institutionalized practices by the Amish, Mormon and Catholic groups of shunning, ostracism and isolation to see the effectiveness of these actions. My point is that employees have no avenue for redress so they file EEO complaints. I believe this is one of the reasons for the 1.7% rulings for employees. In my 15 yrs of practice I've seen only 3 frivolously filed complaints. My other point is that billions of dollars used for EEO are better spent in actual services to the public and stopping bullying is a big step toward that. lesa@snowcrest.net
Re: Workplace Bullying
HR Assistant USDA, FSIS Mon Jan 5, 2009 12:03 PM
I have been bullied for the past three years by the management team. The women of the management team go out of their way to bully employees and have created a hostile work enviornment. This enviornment has resulted in employees shutting down and becoming non performers. I really don't understand why bullies typically harass the people that are the high performers until they can not work. Where is the advantage of work not getting done especially when the bullies are management.
Mgmt. commitment to stop bullying?
Civil Servant VA Thu Dec 4, 2008 1:08 PM
Where I work I always have been bullied and guess what? So does everybody else! How do you stop a Director that believes in "motivation by intimidation?" She targets every single employee and most of your bullets describes her behavior 24/7. If the Director IS mgmt. and upper mgmt. knows this pattern of behavior exists and chooses to do nothing about it because they see the Director as “results oriented”, what can be done? The older employees just want out and counting how many days they have left before retirement and the young folks are too afraid to take a stand and leave.
Our group is "results oriented" and could provide everything upper mgmt. needs w/o our Director. Our group is a great, dedicated workforce of 60+ professionals but unfortunately just like a battered woman, if you're told everyday you're "nothing", after a while you could start believing it and you simply burn out...like us...
Re: Mgmt. commitment to stop bullying?
Frustrated Fed United States Marshals Service Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:02 PM
I applaud the fact that you can still "count the days until retirement". I was bullied to the point of physical and mental anguish. After 29 years of federal service, my job was threatened every day and I was written up for poor performance as a retaliatory measure. I questioned the Marshal about fraudulent practices by our Administrative Officer and within 2 weeks my outstanding performance ratings were reduced to "poor" and a threat of loss of job. I was within 3 years of retirement and unable to work in this hostile environment. I lasted one year before doctor's advised to get out or suffer stroke. I went on medical leave and they refused to pay me although I had over 10 weeks of sick and annual leave. Charged with with AWOL. Followed me twice to doctor appointments and came to my home with their threats. I applied for retirement but before it could be approved, they removed me from federal service. DOJ just turned their heads and let this happen.
bullying
rural carrier post office Thu Dec 4, 2008 7:10 PM
I know that this happens because it is being done currently at our post office. It is being done not by fellow carriers, but by the postmaster. She is a very intimidating person, she changes the rules all the time, without letting you know. We have filed grivences with the union about several things, but that only made it worse. What is worse is that she has been at three different post offices as supervisor. And at each of the offices she caused conflict. But what do the do, but ship her somewhere else, and finally give her a job as a postmaster. She has been written up by the management at all three places, and they promote her. What can you do?
Re Why would a manager do this ...
Engineer AF AF Thu Dec 4, 2008 9:59 PM
I don't normally respond to "Diversity Manager" since logic is lost on he/she/or it, but since the point was brought up, it's worth noting for those who care about this subject. A common reason to dismiss claims of bullying is "Why would a manager do that since it only hurts the organization's performance?" The problem is, these people are applying rational thought to an irrational person. The bully isn't thinking about the impact on the office. Instead they bully is driven by the pleasure or whatever he/she or it gets from the power trip and pain they can inflict on another. The immediate gratification is more important to them than the potential long term effects.
So glad someone put this out there
RN Department of Veterans Affairs Fri Dec 5, 2008 11:21 AM
This problem is rampant in the Government. I wish I had known that before I got into a Federal job. Of the examples of bullying that he lists, I have endured all but one, in almost verbatim form. Of the effects on bullying on an individual, I have endured all of them. Not to mention, these other nurses were not only doing this to me, but the patients also. I blew the whistle on them, and I got reassigned!! Luckily, OSC has taken the case. . .
Prime Example of Bullying by Management
Frustrated Fed United States Marshals Service Fri Dec 5, 2008 8:23 PM
Your article is right on point. I have lived it. For the past 2 years, I have been bullied beyond belief. I reported a fraudulent activity by one of my supervisors to Mgmt. Retaliation soon followed. I experienced a number of tactics you mentioned in your article. I've been employed by the federal government for 29-1/2 years and have excellent work record. Suddenly, I am a poor performer and receive constant threats of removal. False accusations and no means of defense. Physician strongly recommended I remove myself from work environment before I suffered stroke or heart attack due to extreme hostility. I have been threatened while on medical leave and approached twice at medical facility while seeking treatment. I have felt helpless and reputation ruined. There are supposed to be all sorts of programs available to aid federal employees in these situations but none work. Now facing termination with less than 2 yrs to full retirement. This is bullying at its extreme.
workplace bullying
inspector fsis Mon Dec 8, 2008 2:25 AM
a co-worker is dealing with this issue as I type. This article is right on time. She was at wits end cause the supervisor did not attempt to do anything about this situation other than to tell her she dealt with it or transfer to another shift. She begin to to use her leave call she was to frustrated or emotionally unfit to report to work. maybe with he help of this article we can persaude the supervisors to take a step to elimanate this problem. Thank you very much for such an enlightening article.
Workplace Bullying
Botanist USDA Forest Service Mon Dec 8, 2008 1:10 PM
First, to all those suffering from workplace bullying - do your best to tend and care for yourself to mitigate the devastating effects of bullying. As a victim of workplace bullying I'm trying to do just that. The overt bullying from my supervisor stopped after we met with his supervisor. Now he has stopped interacting with me other than when necessary, does not respond to my emails, and does not share information. This is a retaliatory response. Bullying in the workplace should be included as a part of workplace violence training. Everyone deserves to be treated with respect.
Re: Bullying
Clerk USPS Mon Dec 8, 2008 8:14 PM
Until I read Steve Oppermann's article on bullying. I had difficulty in understanding the mentality of my fellow co-workers. I assumed it was because they were just unhappy individuals. I can now begin to focus on how I can best handle this daily dilemma of bullying, which I have allowed to affect me on a constant basis. Thank you Steve your article was enlightening!
It can grow to sadism.
unemployed Dora Dobbson private person Mon Dec 8, 2008 11:59 PM
I was terminated on Nov 24th 2008 as a top achivement of my tormenters. All my activities were slowed down on tricky way. I already had injury when I was still forced to work with tools which were heavy for me. In case somebody tried to help, that was punished.
The tormenter got stable job and promotion.
The employer maybe had no idea what to do.
Report to the managers?
IT Drone DoD Tue Dec 9, 2008 10:20 AM
HAH!! That's rich!
Usually the problem IS the managers who bully underlings to make up for whatever perceived wrongs they experience in their own lives.
The most commom form of bullying in my agency is withholding information, then skipping over three or four levels of supervisors to whine because someone didn't do a task--forgetting to mention they NEVER HAD THE INFORMATION TO DO SO!
Then, with NSPS, it is even easier to bully by holding that pay increase over one's head like a guillotine. No matter how well a person does, that bullying manager can use the paycheck to punish for whatever slight. I've seen people with nearly perfect ratings, but who are not liked by the shirt in charge get 1% raises while a kiss-up with middling ratings get upwards of 7-10%.
Report the manager? To who? The people who like his "aggressive" stance re personnel? His bosses who are happy with keeping within budget?
Most people just quit and then sue.
Workplace bullying
Realty Specialist USFWS Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:14 AM
As a Union Officer our local union sees many complaints that come forward from Bargaining Unit members that probably best qualify as workplace bullying. Sometimes the complaint has elements of sexual harassment, sometimes elements of workplace violence. Often it is unclear what action the employee should pursue to stop the "abuse". If they complain under EEO they are told that many of the things they want to mention in the complaint process are not EEO matters. I may be wrong but we have been informed that because the federal government does not have a Workplace bullying policy there is no way to pursue things that are clear examples of bullying. Please advise.
Bullying
Secretary Dept. of Homeland Security Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:51 AM
I read your article and management in our office is the cause of the bullying. I have one manager who tells me her title and says "just do it because I said so because I am the----". She is not my boss. The other thing is one of her pets talks to everyone the way he wants - belittling etc, slamming doors in workers faces when they are an inch away from the door and management gives him an award for some job he had been doing for 3 years. This is how they punish him. I tried to talk to my manager who is the head boss here and he says " I don't want to be bothered by personal problems" I went to EAP and told them and they said the workplace was hostile and wanted to see me again. I told my boss I was going to get tools to try and handle the hostility and he said I had to take sick time in order to go, so I never went back. This guy is hostile to us in the office and our field and sets them up for failure. So what do you do when management promotes this kind of behavior?
WORKPLACE BULLYING
HUMAN RESOURCE TECH AF Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:36 AM
The article is good information. But you failed in the final paragraph. Is should be: what can an employee do? Most times it is management that is doing the bullying or they are aware that an employee is being bullied and don't address the problem until it gets totally out of hand.
good article, but delightedly out of place
union president FAA Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:27 AM
The article did not tell me anything I did not already know, but the publicity of the problem is a service to all- I am just surprised the management oriented, anti-employee FedSmith published it! The publishers will probably dismiss all the accounts of management bullying as just the self-serving whining of disgruntled employees.
Re: good article, but delightedly out of place
hr usda Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:36 AM
These anti-union articles you are referring to--Would those be the ones written by Frank Ferris of NTEU that were on this site or were the anti-employee articles the ones that told us about the day after Christmas being a federal holiday? Or, perhaps, they were the ones that delineate the TSP changes each month or the ones that kept us up-to-date on the changes in the federal annuity program for FERS employees?
People with an agenda of their own see things in their own way. This is the only site I have seen that doesn't just reproduce union press releases. For the extremists or far left-wing union crowd, I guess that translates into "anti-union" or anti-employee or something else besides just parroting the unusual line of crap from our "union reps."
Please knock it off and try to be a little more in spewing your vitriol. It is very tiresome.
Workplace Bullying
Accountant Western Area Power Administration Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:03 PM
Workplace Bullying is very real. I reported one of these instances to my supervisor who immediately turned it into a personality difference between myself and the infidividaual. Managers need more training on this because it is so real and present!
Harassment now known as Bullying by Management
Benefits Assistant DOL/EBSA Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:53 PM
Well, I can't explain it all, it is a long and ongoing story which I can write a book about, it is a feeling that no one should have to experience at the hands of another human, such as managers and their involved personnel. I want to encourage all the people that has went through, and is going through this type of trauma on the job. Just hang in there because there is a GOD! which I pray to every night and even while on the job, my belief is that even if EEO, Union, Unfair Labor Practice, etc. dismiss the complaint with no prevail, "which has happen to me" GOD have it and they will pay for all the wrong they are doing to people, it may seem as if they have won, but everything that is done in the dark will come to the light some day, and they will pay for it in some way down the line. All predators must remember one thing when the bad times in life come their way, surely it is a pay back of what they have done wrong to others "what a pity".
HARRASSMENT
GS 11 TRANSPORTATION SPEC ROBINS AFB, GA Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:16 AM
for the last 7 months i have been harrassed by another girl in our office. mostly it appears to be silent harrassment, usually when no one else is around. she wants me to retire, thinking she will receive a promotion. some instantances have, however been seen by other co-workers. my supervisor seems to be afraid of her? i have gone to the union, also presently going up the chain. my health has declined, having to take meds., just to stay in the office. what advice could you give me?
thanks
Bulling in the workplace
park ranger corp of engineers Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:57 AM
this is a good article. This is alive an going on here at work especially with the older group of people . we fell like we cant say anything or make comments on anything. As soon as we can leave the better.
Workplace Bullying
Federal Worker Federal Agency Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:21 AM
Two years ago, I was subject to intense bullying by a supervisor, which was supported by the branch chief. The person kept yelling at me out in the open so the other workers around could hear every word. This person was also yelling loudly and beligerantly at others under his supervision.
One day, he starting leaning toward me, raising his voice, discussing one of my alleged failures. I asked him to lower his voice. He threatened to have me written up for insubordination. I immediately went to my union and filed a grievance due to "hostile work environment". After I filed my grievance, the bullying stopped; I believe that he (and our branch chief) realized that I was fighting back -- and thus they backed off. One of the higher management people had a talk with him as well. Eventually, the branch chief was transferred and after that, I was put under a new team leader. I withdrew my grievance at that time and things have been fine ever since.
Bullying in the workplace
USDA Forest Service Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:28 AM
Thank you for an article that is a very real discription of the workplace. I related especially to the following consequences of one feeling bullied:
"Feelings of frustration and/or helplessness
Increased sense of vulnerability
Loss of confidence".
It has been my experience that bullying comes in many different sizes, shapes & colors in that many of those that bully probably have had a lot of practice since adolescence. With all those years of practice you get pretty expert at it.
Another important statement from the article:
"I would advise managers and supervisors to start by examining their own behavior...".
This is really important & personally challenging...it is easier for me to point my finger at others instead of taking a scary & honest look at my own bullying behavior.
Thanks again!!!
Insults!
LPN VA Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:37 AM
a few weeks ago a program manager sent a email in reply to someone. It statred where they asked about ordering supplies from. The program manager replied " why don't you ask the talking horse he does nothing all day. This email went out to a whole group of people! If that was me I would have made a grievence about that!Too me thats a hostile work environment!
Director Who Is a Bully
Program Assistant Department of Energy Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:36 PM
I have witnessed several incidents where this one director takes pleasure in knocking down the confidence of his female staff especially his secretary. This secretary falls under my organization and I have brought this matter to the attention of my AM. Which the director was talked to and has been nice up until his probation period (as he is a new director the probation period is a year) was up now he is back to his abuse ways and can not be touched. I find this wrong and in excuseable. Something needs to be done.
bullying
Claims Rep SSA Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:32 PM
I remember starting a new job and being told by the manager that I was considered as experienced as anyone who has been doing the same job for 15 years.
Then I was being harassed to process even more work and called a "slacker" when I got angry at the manager for pressuring me.
Do managers want the work processed correctly or do they just want the work processed?
It is all related to numerics and not aimed at quality. Technicians are not being allowed to learn their jobs properly.
I feel sorry for the claimant who is receiving poor quality service.
Why is speed always equated with good customer service?
Bullying
Retired Letter Carrier USPS Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:01 PM
It is horribly sad to see intense bullying, lying and human rights abuses taking place in the USPS by their management across the whole country. Hundreds of grievances are filed and won by the lower level union reps and it costs the USPS an incredible amount of money, but they don't care. As long as they can go after union people, they will pay no matter how much it costs, even during this time of severe monetary losses being experienced by the USPS. This abuse and bullying is ruining Letter Carriers and Clerks lives as well as their families. But, no cares, not even the NALC headquarters because they aren't doing anything to stop it. The thousands of grievances against management and also letters to our National are on file as proof. As well as many witnessed conversations to National. So very very sad.
Bullying, Harassment, Victimisation, HR Failure
Sam Individual Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:09 AM
YES - it is violence.
Like rape.
Same effects-impact like rape with PTSD.
Made worse by HR incompetance and failure to act along with management cover ups and 'make this go away' attitude, to create a disaster situation.
The victim never has a chance. What must happen is PROFILE of the Bully andf PROFILE of the Victim, to clearly lable the type of person who offends, and demonstrate that THIS TYPE OF PSYCHOPATH in the workplace is not wanted and must be take out, companies must understand it is their BEST WORKERS and MOST ADMIRED COMPETANT workers who are bullied, as they 100% show up the bully and the harasser. Throw in the fact that they are so admired and follow the company policies to the T that they are even more a target, often isolated making them easy prey. People find them a threat.
Companies must acknowledge and promote the best workers and performance manage and get rid of the bullies, as psychopaths are NOT fixable.
Bullying
LCSW VA Hospital Mon Mar 2, 2009 5:26 AM
I have learned so much by reading everyone's comments. The dysfunction in my team is often breath taking. Management protects the worst offenders because they seem to be intimidated as well. It's taken me over a decade to start fighting back. I've filed grievances and talked to everyone I have access to reporting the incompetence of management, particularly my supervisor. Lo and behold, changes are being made. I have something challenging to say to all of us victims of this kind of abuse - grow a back bone, don't let fear shut you up, it feels so much better to take action than to sit behind closed doors complaining with co-workers which doesn't do any good, unless you are organizing a union or making an action plan. I am astounded by the amount of fear exists in federal workplaces, generations ago, people died fighting for their rights on the job recognizing the indignity of being bullied and beaten by a broken system. You and I are worth it - take a stand, we have everything to lose.
Re: Bullying
Sick & Tired Of Amoral Management Decisions! VA Wed Mar 4, 2009 3:42 PM
I am currently going through a situation and am frankly pissed! During a meeting a new coworker lunged out to attack me and was contained by other coworkers who OBVIOUSLY perceived a bodily harm threat, just as I did! But my supervisor refuses to believe that she witnessed a threat! However, management or Human Resources has done nothing about this as of yet. I refuse to sit back and allow management to believe that this will all simply go away so that they do not have to implement corrective action for this violent employee. As if, it were not bad enough that this employee had shown psychological signs the second day of transferring from another VA facility to this facility! And it has not gotten any better since that day; she is extremely uncouth, belligerent, and a blatant liar as well! What does a ‘NUT CASE’ have to actually do or say to clue management in that they could actually bring physical harm to an employee which in turn will later open up a can of worms, A LAWSUIT?!
Corruption at VA
Veteran Private Citizen Mon Mar 2, 2009 11:19 AM
I can't help but think that 'my' VA employee who happened to get my claim by virtue of a numerical or alphabetical sequence
understood and possibly shared some of the distinctions of my PTSD secondary to the personal assault of domestic violence.
The corrupt supervisors and managers are gone now and I am left with the feeling or notion that 'my' VA employee is breathing easier. (Sort of like the relief I felt when I resisted and defended myself and separated from an abusive husband.)
Veterans are affected by VA employees being bullied to produce end product credits so their managers and directors get big, fat bonuses in the compensation area.
It happened to me!
technician USDA Thu Mar 5, 2009 11:02 AM
I lived it , but I thought the action of my supervisor was poor supervisor skills. Oh, they were skills all right. Very subtle skills.
I can look back now and I cringe at some of the numerous scenarios and actions that should have been reported. I was too devasted. I suffered from each and every item listed. In fact, several times I thought of suicide. Geesh! That is so not me! ...and yet.
My saving grace was a counselor that taught me skills to deal with this particular supervisor. The counselor also helped me to see each situation for what it was and not internalize it.
I was finally shifted to another position and supervisor. Even so, it was several years before I felt safe from the vindictive actions of my previous supervisor.
Thank you to my new supervisor who has patience and understanding...and my back!
VA - Employer of Choice
Union Steward VA Thu Mar 5, 2009 11:13 AM
In 2000 I represented Joe, a male RN who worked in mental health for 19 years and was terminated by the VA. During the 15-month ordeal Joe, who was a veteran, suffered physically and mentally and was hospitalized at the VA.
The legal process culminated in a hearing in front of a Disciplinary Appeals Board which ordered that Joe would be reinstated, receive backpay and benefits and be restored to duty as far away from his previous worksite as possible. Management put him back to work 95 miles away from his home on an acute medical ward. Joe had not worked in acute medicine for 20 years and believed management assigned him to that ward to get him fired for performance. He committed suicide 4 days before he was to start work.
We ‘won’ the case but Joe is dead, his widow could not sue the VA for wrongful death and the managers have all prospered and been promoted! They knew he was fragile and pushed this veteran over the edge.
I continue to fight bullying in the workplace! It’s only right!
Re: VA - Employer of Choice
Retired Physician VA Sun Mar 8, 2009 11:21 AM
I had a Service Chief with a HISTORY of workplace violence (at the University Hospital) who I reported for threatening behavior to HR. After being secretly investigated for six months, I was handed a letter of proposed termination by him. My DAB hearing was a farce. To make a long story (which I would be glad to share with you or whoever) I "won" my case in U.S. Federal district court, receiving restitution (back pay, attorney fees, etc.) and reinstatement. On my attorney's advice, I retired to avoid possible appeal.
The perpetrators have either been promoted or retired.
Re: VA - Employer of Choice
Registered Nurse W.G. Bill Hefner VA Medical Center Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:30 PM
The VA system seems to be totally corrupt with management and attorneys that bully and perpetuate the hostile work environment so many good employees must endure. Employer of choice is a joke!!!
Polarization
Director USDA Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:06 AM
Thank you for your article. It was very good and it did provide good information. I reading the comments though I see there is this polarization towards management.
May I ask, what about people who are self-proclaimed victims and cry "Bullying" because they are unhappy with their life? How can management weed out those versus the true victims? Perhaps a focus on a future article, Mr. Oppermann?
Re: Polarization
employee USDA Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:11 PM
Do you really think that EEO couldn't weed out the people that are crying "Bullied" by management vs unhappy with their life?
Bullying in the Workplace
AO USDA Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:25 AM
An co-worker in my office came to my workstation to ask that I accompany her to my supervisor's office so we could "talk". I refused to go to my supervisor's office without representation due to my supervisor's egregious past behavior. When I refused, the co-worker began to call me names and made many other of negative statements about me while my supervisor stood in very close proximity and witnessed the verbal attack. My supervisor did nothing to intervene or stop it. I would say the actions of my co-worker and supervisor are contrary to the Directive on
Code of Conduct and Responsibilities. My supervisor has never addressed the issue or apologized for the situation.
Anger vs Bulling
George Anderson Anderson & Anderson Fri Mar 27, 2009 1:57 PM
Is self-control or anger management related to bullying?
This is a good start.
Bullying
Deputy Clerk US District Court Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:02 PM
What if someone is being bullied by managment? What recourse, if any, is there for the employee?
Bullying is Condoned at the VA
VAs Legal Offices Former VA Employee Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:29 AM
I was a victim of bullying and discrimination within the Department of Veterans Affairs. When I sought help from upper-level management, they victimized me further by bullying me and supported the manager's rogue actions. The manager's bullying worsened and he is now out of control. He even bullies his staff by posting my complaints on the internal database to send the message that this is what happens to people who file complaints. He has posted my social security number--didn't VA have a problem with a disregard for privacy and veteran's SSN's?
What is really disturbing is this is the legal department of VA and this man is an attorney who oversees legal actions for 3 states! In addition, I was a victim of constructive discharge and he has been rewarded and recommended by the Office of General Counsel for the VA Leadership Program. Rest assured, in the current environment, he will be promoted.
Re: Bullying is Condoned at the VA
Registered Nurse W.G. Bill Hefner VA Medical Center Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:22 PM
Aspects of your situation are similar to my experience at the VA. The legal team directs management to bully, harass and make an example of any employee who questions policies or has a disability. I hope the new Secretary of Veteran Affairs, Eric Shinseki, is made aware of these widespread behaviors. Often times the good employees leave, and the 30+ year veterans of the system either stay and roll with punches, or simply take up space. The VA would benefit from an influx of new employees, without the VA or highway mentality.
Most Informative
File Clerk Medical Office Sat Jul 11, 2009 9:07 AM
Until having read your article I neither understood what I was going through at my job.
However and unfortunately, it is management itself that allows this type of behavior to continue, and needless to say, mentally, physically and emotionaly it is very detrimental and takes its toll.
Again, thank you for your insightful article!
CS
Bullying by SOE/AW/Warden
Recreation Supervisor Federal Bureau of Prisons Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:07 AM
The WARDEN, ASSOCIATE WARDEN, AND SOE (my total chain of command) stuck me on a schedule that I could not work and take care of my children. My wife died from a massive heart attack (she was only 30). It left me with my two daughters (9 & 8 yrs old). They INTENTIONALLY put me on a schedule that would have had DSS locking me up for CHILD NEGLECT. All 3 of these individuals conspired together on how to get rid of me. I had more time in the gov't than my boss (SOE). She was the ex-wife of my first boss and came in with a "chip on her shoulder" and tried to make me look like I didn't know what I was doing (8 years as the SOR and 15+ years in the BOP). These individuals did not care about not only my situation (widowed w/children), but they did not care about my position (SOR)....they didn't like me and they ALL conspired together to CRIPPLE me to the point I had to resign!
My kids not only would have lost their mother, but also their father....This stuff makes me sick!
Thank you
EPA
Wed Dec 3, 2008 8:24 AM
Great article.
I've witnessed this first hand: several of my managers and colleagues bully one of our secretaries. It's gotten ridiculous, and upper management and our union have done nothing to help her.
Re: Thank you
DoD
Wed Dec 3, 2008 9:02 AM
- Is she being bullied in a way that singles her out? IOW, is she the oldest staffer, or the only staffer of color, etc? Then the abuse becomes discriminatory.
- She should ask her union local to see if the misbehavior has violated the existing labor agreement--then she can file a grievance. Or, if it's really egregious, it can be classified as an unfair labor practice. She should also consult a labor law atty if all else fails.
She's likely lost hope b/c of mgt's misdeeds. I know b/c it happened to me too. I was singled out b/c of physical disabilities that required surgical intervention, and I was denied leave and accommodation. I got lucky, though: the supvr was a crook, I caught and "outed" him, and he's no longer in place.
Not that others didn't try to remove me, despite over 20 yrs of exemplary federal service. But I knew how to defend myself. I was just unlucky enough to get old, good work notwithstanding...
Re: Thank you
VA
Wed Dec 3, 2008 9:56 AM
Re: Thank you
DoD
Wed Dec 3, 2008 3:21 PM
Any time you take a stand to defend yourself or help someone else, expect consequences. Forget about promotions b/c it won't happen. Just remember that if this is happening to you, you aren't getting promoted anyway, so you may as well pursue the matter.
Your wkg r'ships will likely change, and it 's a good way to find out which co-workers "have your back" (if any, b/c I know I don't).
It can get ugly, b/c even if the slime is a bona-fide bully and incompetent, mgt will protect him/her b/c, incompetent or not, he's/she's THEIR incompetent bully so they're obligated to stand by them.
And remember that there's more than 1 way to win. No matter which redress you take--grievance, complaint, ULP--SOMEthing will change as a result. It'll take time, but if you can hang tough and assess the Big Picture, you'll see the truth of that statement in due time.
Bullying
Various Federal agencies
Wed Dec 3, 2008 8:28 AM
This is an excellent article. The subject of bullying should be included in all workplace violence training. Agencies having tables of penalties that include engaging in workplace violence should consider including it as an example. I experienced it as a Federal employee and has seen others suffer from it as well.
Bullying
IRS
Wed Dec 3, 2008 8:43 AM
My Supervisor has told me that "I should be thankful that he selected me cause no one else wants me." He has told me that "I will never be a Specialist because I do not impress him enough." He has his clerks going through my desk constantly. He has made unreasonable demands on my job. All this was as a result of my standing up for another female employee because he was bullying her with regards to her desk. He came through and told her that she had to get everything personal off her desk and then he told her he was coming after me. So when he did I asked where the Directive was that said I could not have anything personal on my desk and he said he issued a Directive and I had to follow it. I could go on but those are just some of the highlights. Yes, I am sick every day coming to work, I cry all the way home. I get no praise, always telling me what I did wrong. I have notified his superiors and have filed and EEO complaint.
Re: Bullying
OPM
Wed Dec 3, 2008 9:49 AM
Workplace Bullying
USPS
Wed Dec 3, 2008 8:46 AM
I was the victim of a workplace bully, a subordinate who was supposed to be supporting me in a project, but instead did her best to sabotage the entire enterprise, because she was disappointed that she had not been allowed to handle it herself, instead of being assigned to assist me. She delayed performing requested tasks for weeks, then turned in subpar work that I either had to return to her for corrections -- requiring additional delays -- or fix myself. If I dared to inquire about the status of one of these tasks, she would bawl me out and suggest I might want to do it myself. When I did it myself, she would also bawl me out and complain to management that I was trying to undermine HER. Management dismissed my complaints about her as some type of personality conflict. I finally had to take the bull by the horns and send the offender a blistering email -- laying it all out -- copied to all management, to get some relief. They split the tasks among us, instead of firing her.
Bullies
USDA Forest Service
Wed Dec 3, 2008 8:51 AM
I work with three male bullies, one of which is considered a semi-permanent employee and the other two are permanent employees like myself. We also have an instigator in the same shop. The supervision is passive. I am the only female employee on the warehouse floor. One of the bullies is my Workl leader, but all three have exhibited the examples listed in your article. We currently have 15 employees and there is no morale. We have all said that the WL needs anger management classes that should be tied to his appraisal. Then mgmt needs to send him to leadership classes. He leads by fear and intimidation, but I am the only that is expected to lead by example.
Re: Bullies
USFS
Wed Dec 3, 2008 12:34 PM
Bullying
government
Wed Dec 3, 2008 8:54 AM
Your comments are on point.
Management will not stop an incompetent manager from bullying a worker. This manager did things against the norm and violated the rules. Management said it was in his power or burried the actions with baloney.
When management does not want to promote a worker, management will find a way to do so. When management wants to promote an incompetent worker who sucks up to the manager it will find a way to do so. I have seen both.
I will not go into details at this time to remain unidentifiable, as I have been retaliated against.
WORKPLACE BULLYING
OSM
Wed Dec 3, 2008 9:05 AM
Years back I experienced this type of behavior from of all people a supervisor. Untill it happens to you, it is difficult to expain how it can and does have a psychological affect on you. It affects all aspects of your job from how you perform your duties, to your social interactions with other staff employees (or lack of) etc. You become paranoid. I am now of retirement age with service time and still harbor those feelings however to a much lesser extent. I must add this supervisor had to take a disability retirement years back due to a psychological condition but the damage was already done.
Re: WORKPLACE BULLYING
VA
Wed Dec 3, 2008 10:03 AM
Re: WORKPLACE BULLYING
FS
Fri Dec 5, 2008 10:09 AM
Inadvertent bullying
Forest Service
Wed Dec 3, 2008 9:05 AM
Excellent article, especially the encouragement to managers and supervisors to examine their own behavior. I think sometimes the seemingly 'natural' inclination of humans to create cliques and 'in groups' extends to management personnel - they are doing what seems secure and familiar to them. However, it can have devastating effect on subordinates who aren't part of the 'in group'. I have seen it in effect in my own department.
Work Place Bullying
DCMA
Wed Dec 3, 2008 9:06 AM
This article is very interesting however it does not point out, at least I didn't see it, that a person can be accused of being a bully when you react to comments or lies spread by the office suck-butt and every office has one. In my case I have ignored this jerk in my office for years but recent actions and distortion of facts concerning my actual work task were blown out of proportion to management. Management chose to believe there "golden knee-pad" boy which resulted in me being reassigned to a lesser job where I am assigned task that require much less skill and training I possess. When I mentioned that I wanted to confront this individual face to face in a controlled area were all facts could be presented I was accused of Bullying. Finally I want to say that all I wanted was a chance to confront my accuser but after not being given that chance I can understand why someone would want to be very much more assertive in a confrontation.
workplace bullying
usda
Wed Dec 3, 2008 9:28 AM
I worked in an office that was closed and merged with another. since the first day I walked into the new office I got 16 of the 19 examples. I thank God, my Doctor and one co-worker that stood by me. I carpool with that one co-worker; work talk was off limits in the vehicle. That helped me get home without not wanting to kill my husband. My Doctor bless her heart got me in immediately one day, when I called her crying. She signed me up for stress reduction classess. She said I was the happiest person she had ever met, and I needed to learn how to deal with what was going on. And I prayed every night. Well, after one year, one of the people maybe the second worst offender came to me and appoligized. She told me my old manager had started spreading rumors about me before the office even merged. There is finally less stress in the office, and most of us are working as a team. The old manager is having a rough time. But, I am being business professional with her.
This is my experience too
Anonymous
Wed Dec 3, 2008 9:34 AM
I currently work in a federal agency where this type of behavior is prevalent and acceptable. I am a victim of this kind of behavior, and I am aggressively applying for another job in light of this climate. Despite the fact that I have a very strong, positive work ethic, I hold an MBA, and have demonstrated a consistent contribution to my current federal agency, I am still the target of this type of abuse. It is unbearable, and those who engage in this kind of treatment (at ALL levels) should be held accountable.
Workplace Bullying
VA
Wed Dec 3, 2008 10:04 AM
Thank you, thank you for helping to bring this to light. As others have said, until it happens to you it is hard to understand the devastating effects it can have. I felt like I was in the twilight zone - nothing made sense. Targets, take heart - you are targeted many times BECAUSE you care, are conscientious, are competent, and you are threatening to those who aren't. And to the person who was called a bully because he merely reacted to bullying - that itself is a bullying tactic! When I retire from this bully-ridden environment, I will make it my mission to work towards anti-bullying legislation. Europe has it and knows this behavior cannot be tolerated in any civilized country.
Re: Workplace Bullying
VA
Thu Dec 4, 2008 7:57 AM
Re: Workplace Bullying
DOL
Thu Dec 4, 2008 7:44 PM
Re: Workplace Bullying
VA
Fri Dec 5, 2008 7:45 AM
Re: Workplace Bullying
DOD
Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:46 AM
Workplace bullying is psychological aggression
OSHA
Wed Dec 3, 2008 10:07 AM
Thank you for shedding light on the serious problem of workplace psychological aggression. I now prefer this term to bullying, because what happens at work is ordinarily very different from the bullying of the school yard. A school yard bully can injure a child. A boss who is psychologically aggressive can injure a worker and his/her family economically, psychologically, and physically (as the worker becomes ill). I saw all of this at the Department of Labor, which led me to conduct a study on it. The Labor and Employment Relations Association invited me, and AFGE 12 sent me, to present my paper at the LERA annual conference January 2007. The paper was the groundwork for our "Proposal to Secretary of Labor Elaine Chao on Workplace Bullying and Psychological Harassment." The proposal package is at htt://L12Bullying.googlepages.com. We invite people to read it and link to it. Also, people can file complaints under their Department's workplace violence programs. It will fit.
Being bullied
VA
Wed Dec 3, 2008 10:25 AM
Your article describes most of the acts that management has subjected me to since I requested a reasonable accommodation based on mental disability. AFGE Union has also been involved in these tactics. My complaints of discrimination with retaliation have gone formal, however I hear the EEO process takes years. I can not afford to quit with 2 kids in college, nor can I afford to take much more of this abuse. Any ideas or suggestions?
Re: Being bullied
VA
Wed Dec 3, 2008 2:38 PM
Re: Being bullied
DOL
Thu Dec 4, 2008 7:51 PM
Maybe bulling is needed when dealing with a work force that doesn't do its job
Re: Being bullied
IRS
Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:43 AM
Needless to say, I turned to the Union, which the steward was worthless. So with the encouragement of some workers in a unit and department other then mine, who saw the aggressive behaviror towards me, encouraged me to file with the EEO. I did. Relatiaition is huge from managment, and the sweet yound things that the prior manager gave special special favors to, were constangly putting me down, yes, they missed the prior manager and all the attention he gave them. Oh did I mention, managment gave him a promotion to get him out of our unit, which is what the EEO officer told me usually happens at the IRS. This inferrior slug of a manager, destroyed my evaluation that took me 21 years to get in the exceeds bracket, and my performance awards.
Re: Being bullied
IRS
Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:49 AM
Yeah, he got away with it. I filed with the EEO on March 28, 2007. Our federal court hearing is scheduled for March 2, 2009. Yes, two years, $3400 of attorney fees, and I just found out, in a discrimination case, you win nothing. Even if you prove your case and the evidence is in your favor, you get nothing. No attorney fees paid, no compensatory damages, which means, I could not get my evaluation reinstated, my performance awards will not be reinstaded. And management makes ways for me to fail, so they can now substantiate lowereing my evaluation, which he never had before.
With my eval in the toilet, I cannot put in for other jobs. Oh, I did put in for other jobs and when called to get offers, I found out the detailed manager behind the "slug", turned them away and told them my CJE's were so low I could not go. Which personnel told me is illegal. OK, this is all illegal, but the truth is, the laws protect the behavior
Bullying
USDA
Wed Dec 3, 2008 10:28 AM
I too am a victim of this kind of behavior. The manager criticizes and belittles my knowledge and work products privately and in front of coworkers and other managers. Since he behaves inconsistently, my stomach clenches whenever I need to go to his office. At times he is very complimentary and effusive. I do not know when I will leave his office with a smile or shaking.
He admits that I have a very strong work ethic and always get the job done. This abusive environment has increased my stress level and contributed to depressions. I am only a few years away from retirement.
Work Place Bullying
AMSCC-RCC-SF
Wed Dec 3, 2008 10:33 AM
If you suspect work place bullying and you want to do something about it where do you start? How can you prove it's taking place. Do you go to the IG, Union or EEO? Going to management and/or using the chain of command doesn't seem to be the answer.
Re: Work Place Bullying
DoD
Wed Dec 3, 2008 3:15 PM
Some feds here commented that their union is ineffectual. They fail to see that their local IS its members and/or bargaining unit. If the union isn't doing its job, then it's up to the workers to see that it does. Get involved, ask ?s, demand accountability.
But first--JOIN. That's not a union "plug," but you must take responsibility for yourselves. Yes, the local must represent all of its BU, but members will get more attention b/c they had enough faith to join up.
Visit your local, get a rep or steward who can explain what your options may be, if any. I say that b/c there has to be a "hook" to latch onto before you start your defense.
And that's not hyperbole: defending yourself against a bully, who's protected by mgt, can be an ugly and draining fight. But you'll be relieved for standing up for yourself.
Bullying
DeBakey VA Medical Center
Wed Dec 3, 2008 11:17 AM
I read through your article with interest. Apparently I have experienced workplace bullying in several arenas and did not realize it. In my opinion some people are just not nice people and are propelled in varying degrees to try and atagonize and upset people for various reasons. They can only be successful if others participate and not able to think for themselves and keep quite. Being excluded from workplace social events can be disheartening but often is no real reflection on the person excluded but a truer reflection on the ones allowing and participating in the exclusion! The same is true for workplace gossip and rumors.
Protected Bullying - A twist
Anonymous
Wed Dec 3, 2008 11:25 AM
The twist here is what if the bully is the President of the union, whose bullying of managers and supervisors, is considered protected. The FLRA's assessments of "flagrant misconduct" practically require an assault, or a racial incident, before saying something crossed the line. Let's say the union president is DIAGNOSED with bipolar disorder or borderline personality disorder causing the person to adopt an irrational anger and victim mentality for every perceived slight, whether real or not. In short encounters, this person appears "passionate" about issues, but only after longer interactions does the psychosis show. AND, the fact of the diagnosed disorder is protected by Privacy laws. Even the managers and supervisors subject to the bullying are not allowed to know the "real" issue. The attacks are rampant and have everyone's blood pressure up. The constant and personal attacks in emails, union newsletters, and personal interactions are "protected bullying." Thoughts please!
Re: Protected Bullying - A twist
DOD
Wed Dec 3, 2008 3:19 PM
I am DIAGNOSED bipolar and when a supe was (unlawfully but safely,) guilty of "accidentally" letting my diagnosis out, I was in for hell!
My BEHAVIOR was within acceptable norms but anything, ANYTHING, that annoyed me was "because I was BP!" I was not allowed "normal" emotions.
My boss when I was triggered and diagnosed was WONDERFUL! He knew I did a good job, gave me the time to work on treatment, same as if I had cancer or a broken leg, and NEVER used it against me.
The next boss, after BRAC moved me to a new field, was fine. She also looked at performance and behavior.
Her replacement was EVIL! He knew my diagnosis by the meds disclosure in my file, (required for the job,) He harassed me for anything and everything. He was trying to drive me to breakdown/suicide attempt as he did to his clinically depressed clerk.
Union/EEO were completely ineffective.
It's Happening Here on A Grand Scale
Defense Contract Management Agency
Wed Dec 3, 2008 11:39 AM
This is EXACTLY what is occurring in our office to many individuals. It is debilitating. It's not uncommon to hear people sobbing in their cubicles in this office. One day this past summer, an air conditioner compressor exploded in the ceiling. People ran for cover and hid under their desks-we thought it was gunfire and that someone here finally snapped! The young try to leave and the folks close to retirement such as myself just count the days...
Bullying
DoD
Wed Dec 3, 2008 11:45 AM
Bottom line is bullying has no place any workplace. Employees who feel that they are being bullied should immediatley report it to the superiors (go all the way to the top), HR office, IG, and law enforcement authorities. Be sure to provide enough details so that those responsible for investigating your complaint can do so effectively and completely and you can protect yourself from less than honest investigations. Do not stand for this - take action and take it immediately.
Just happened to me, sionara
DOE, Albuquerque
Wed Dec 3, 2008 12:18 PM
I retired 15 months ago because of a new bully manager. He yelled and screamed saying i wasn't doing my job. He actually just transfered in and had no training or understanding in the complex area I had been working in (and had established the process in DOE) for 20 years. He was taking advice from a cut throat co worker who wanted my job ,and being an accountant, had poor judement regarding people.
When he yelled, I took the early out and he was in shock. I'm lucky my pension is twice the national income family average.
SIONRA LOOSER
Re: Just happened to me, sionara
United States Marshals Service
Fri Dec 5, 2008 9:01 PM
Bullying
DoD
Wed Dec 3, 2008 12:26 PM
As a former victim of a bullying boss, I can relate to a lot of the things cited in the article, but I do take issue with a few things. I did try to address the bullying through meetings with a union rep and talking to various other people, but in the end, the only real solution was to leave the job (even though it took almost 5 years). I knew if anyone did call this boss on the carpet, she'd only find another way to retaliate. HOWEVER, I did find that once I changed my own reaction (e.g., not crying when she verbally attacked me), her desire to humiliate became far less "fun" for her and she did it less often. Also, I think it's unfair for the author to blame bullying regarding the kids who went on a shooting spree at their schools. There has to be a screw loose to begin with for a child to do that. Finally, for me personally, as I look back to the experience with the "bully boss," I find that I am a stronger, more assertive person as a result of having to deal with it.
Not all cases are Bullying
Government
Wed Dec 3, 2008 1:26 PM
From experience with complaints of bullying I have found many of the things are preceived by individuals who may not be the most steller performers and when confronted, immediatly look for someone to blame, usually the supervisor. Looking at the list you present, I too could say; yes that happened to me, and that one and that one, but I know if I were to examine them closely I can see that it was probably me not taking responsibilty for what I was doing.
While I believe this is a real problem and I believe there are bullys in t he work place I caution not to jump to conclusions.
It is NOT Just Supervisors/Managers
DoD
Wed Dec 3, 2008 1:27 PM
I work in a small organization; less than 25 people. Our main tyrant is the second lowest graded employee; our admin assistant. The backing she gets from our director has us all believing that she has some sort of influence over him; he is highly regarded and in all other ways the perfect supervisor/manager. He is respectful, tolerant, supportive, intelligent, fair, and hardworking and rewards hard work. However, he is completely blind to this woman's abhorrent behavior and treatment of others. Because he ignores her intimidation, others have started behaving in the same vein. Many have learned that if they suck up to her and emulate the bullying tactics, they will get her backing and thus the backing of the director. There have been shouting matches between her and our second in command, but he loses all arguments when the big boss gets involved. She has essentially castrated every branch chief, every one that might have had a chance to stop her.
Coworkers
DOD
Wed Dec 3, 2008 3:27 PM
Right now it is the supervisor making the entire place feel hostile. One new but senior employee is also being ugly and rude to anyone who isn't close to his grade or above it. He denies, with the supe's assent, the parts of our jobs that make it worth doing and make us valuable in the employement market. And is verbally rude about it! He is harder to live with than the over-controlling supe.
Union is getting involved but the rest of management will support the supe, the employee being rude will be supported by the supe, life is getting ugly.
Right now, those in jobs that can, are simply transferring as fast as they can. Those like me, have their resumes out but realize that the current market only wants people with degrees. I would have to take a pay cut, (nope!) to get out quickly.
No one cares.
Union is pretty ineffective.
I survive it so my children can eat.
Workplace Bullying
Anonymous
Wed Dec 3, 2008 3:39 PM
Excellent article! I consider myself truly blessed as I am no longer with the agency where I experienced the most awful treatment. Like many who have been, and still are being victimized, I did not then and probably will never know "why." In reading many of the comments on this article, I noticed that many of the comments came from people at my former agency. With upper level management being unresponsive to my requests for assistance, the EEO rep not being able to categorize the problem and pretty much sending me away with no assistance, and my not being quite eligible for retirement, I left the Federal government for a time. I now believe that the EEO rep probably got stuck on the "fine line" theory. There was no line. Since I left, I learned that the "abuser" has simply moved on to another victim. This space does not allow me to list all the offenses committed by the abuser. Hopefully, the new victim will read this article and continue to pursue efforts to "right" a serious wrong.
Re Not all cases are bullying
AF
Wed Dec 3, 2008 10:21 PM
This is to employee relations advisor. I think you misunderstand the point. Of course everyone can pick specific things but if you can honestly agree with the comment, then it wasn't bullying. However, this is where you misunderstand -- others assuming the target is a poor performer is how bullies can hide.
Like many have said, until you've experienced it, you can't believe what it's like. And often it is so subtle and insidious, only the target knows it's happening. Even then it may take a while for the target to understand what's happening to them. I would have never believed it either until it happened to me. The effects on my health, family and career are criminal. I still have the effects of stress and it has taken years for my career to partially recover. Took me two years to get out of the situation and even today four years later I am on the lookout for the knife to slip into my back and document every discussion, email, etc that happens.
Re: Re Not all cases are bullying
DoD
Thu Dec 4, 2008 10:00 AM
Rewarded for bullying
IRS
Thu Dec 4, 2008 5:41 AM
In our agency, the management bullies are rewarded for their (mis)behavior. Many years ago, I was a manager and I witnessed the then Division Chief tell a female manager that she needed to let her employees know who was boss and do whatever it takes.
As a union rep, we are dealing with a group manager bully right now. This manager gets awarded for his behavior, but we are reacting to every incident with grievances or other actions. Eventually, someone will get tired of all the paperwork.
About time someone called it!
Peer Abuse Know More!
Thu Dec 4, 2008 7:20 AM
I am Elizabeth Bennett and I also work in the field of bullying and peer abuse. I call this exactly what it is; ABUSE.
These childhood bullies grow worse as they mature. They find more sophisticated ways of dealing with their targets. They are also your white collar criminals. Racketeering, embezzlement....its there.
These adults who are being bullied more than likely are Adult Survivors of Peer Abuse. They just get retraumatized in the workplace.
The psychological impact of all of this is unbelievable. Plus, companies loose money when caught up in all of this. Work production decreases and workers wind up sick as a result.
Thanks for your well written and insightful article. Its much appreciated.
Regards,
Elizabeth Bennett
http://www.peerabuse.info
Re: About time someone called it!
USDA/Retired
Thu Dec 4, 2008 1:08 PM
I have represented federal employees for 15 years on these issues. I am currently working on a project to submit to the Obama administration for prevention and elimination of federal workplace bullying. I would like to speak with you. If you are willing, please contact me at: lesa@snowcrest.net Thank you...lesa donnelly
Re: About time someone called it!
VA
Thu Dec 4, 2008 2:47 PM
Re: About time someone called it!
DOL
Thu Dec 4, 2008 7:59 PM
remember it takes two to tango and there is usually a reason why this is happening. I can't see any manager going home at night thinking who am I going to bully tomorrow. If its causing health issue maybe just maybe the employee needs to find a career more suited to their talents
Re: About time someone called it!
DoD
Tue Dec 9, 2008 10:45 AM
If you don't think managers plan who to pick on, then you are truly naive. My cubicle is positioned in such a way that I end up hearing a lot of conversations I don't want to. Some of those conversations revolve around how to get rid of some person a supervisor doesn't like. I get up and tell those people that if something does happen, I have no problem with testifying on behalf of the person they are plotting against.
I know a situation where a supervisor is harassing an employee by calling his personal cell at all hours and leaving nasty messages, posting rude comments on his family's MySpace page, refusing to help his wife when she comes in for legitimate business reasons, calling their children names... You get the picture.
You think that doesn't hurt morale or make people sick?
WRONG! It isn't the employee who needs a different job.
bullying in absence
doi
Thu Dec 4, 2008 8:08 AM
a few years ago, i was the subject of bullying. the bully would wait until i was out of the office, and then, go to my boss and undermine the work i had done. by the time i got back to the office, all the work i had carefully finished, was torn apart and in a shambles. it left me feeling as if i was the problem, and not the "bully".
this person would also bring members of the public to my office or have them telephone me, with the "bully's" agenda.
it was quite an experience. one, I do not want to ever repeat. thankfully, that bully, retired and i have received awards for doing good work!
psychological violence
USPS
Thu Dec 4, 2008 8:54 AM
In a station with all men, I was one of two female letter carriers -- the other was married to one of the carriers. The supervisor said he would give me "easy" overtime if I put my name on the OT list. I did. I thought I would get to stay inside and case bulk mail. He took me downstairs when I got in one day, and when I rejected him, he sent me out in the rain to carry more mail. Needless to say, I took my name off the OT list and never put it back on again. This disrespect for women at the Postal Service is still there today. I don't understand why women are treated so very badly -- not allowed to talk like the men -- always talked down to when spoken to -- taken into the office and asked "are you going to cry?" No one has any idea the discrimination toward women that goes on there.
Bullying
FedGovt
Thu Dec 4, 2008 9:02 AM
I experience workplace bullying often by my supervisor, her "favorite", other supervisors to the effect of excluding me on things I should know, talking to me just in e-mails, yelling, never saying favorable things to me, my supervisor questioning me constantly about trivial things just to show me she's the supervisor (make me feel like a child), constant "tattling" on me, not saying hello or good-bye. I do an excellent job, always can be depended on, conscientious, accurate and don't deserve to be treated the way I am. I always hear about sexual harassment - what about regular harassment - that is not addressed in the Federal government. I even made my supervisor's supervisor aware of the situation which basically went ignored too.
Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome
DOI
Thu Dec 4, 2008 9:12 AM
Since the one job that I had where I was Harassed not only sexually but also emotionally, I have had numerous problems in all my other positions. Just the other day I was travelling with other employees and was bullied. Every word that I said, this person said: “NO YOU ARE WRONG”. I shut up and have not spoken to that person since. I cannot wait for those 37 months till retirement.
harrassment
post office amc
Thu Dec 4, 2008 9:21 AM
if you go to the lv nevada amc you will see a satellite
voice transmitter used to remove employees on the floor. Extreme harrassment at its best. Condoned and
createdfor the use of management. They create there own proplems.
Bullying Bosses
Fed Agency
Thu Dec 4, 2008 11:23 AM
I had the displeasure of working for a manager who was a bully. One of the scariest aspects was that you never knew what would set him off. When he went off, there was yelling, profanity, slamming doors, and he broke a phone by slamming it down on a coworker's desk. He was "counseled" but nothing was done to really establish and enforce a code of acceptable behavior.
Now I work where another manager is bullying one of her employees. Social isolation, unrealistic deadlines, assigning disproportionate workloads - she's done it all. She does it in staff meetings with the rest of her group (happily, I'm not in that group), but everyone is afraid to stand up for the one employee because they don't want the irrational wrath of the manager turned on them. The union and EEO rep have done nothing except tell her to "document" and "that's just the way she is" (Well, in THAT case, bullying is acceptable, if that's just the way she is!) It's tragic.
Workplace Bullying
USDA/Retired
Thu Dec 4, 2008 12:48 PM
Mr. Oppermann is very accurate in his description of workplace bullying and its ramifications. One thing that wasn't addressed is that in the federal employment culture, workplace bullying is consistently practiced by management as a tool to influence and control employees. It is used as a preventative measure to keep employees in line, and a retaliatory measure against those who challenge management decisions, disagree with workplace norms, or file grievances/ EEO complaints. I've been representing employees for 15 years, first as an employee and now as a retiree. Many EEO complaints are actually workplace bullying in lieu of discrimination but the employee has no avenue for bullying and files through EEOC. Three years ago, Marlene Brawn (CA BLM) comitted suicide due to workplace bullying. She wasn't the first and will not be the last. Employees lives are devastated. Billions of dollars are wasted yearly on this problem. Cultural change is needed - and now! Lesa Donnelly
Re: Workplace Bullying
DOL
Thu Dec 4, 2008 8:03 PM
Re: Workplace Bullying
USDA/Retired
Mon Dec 8, 2008 12:17 PM
Re: Workplace Bullying
USDA, FSIS
Mon Jan 5, 2009 12:03 PM
Mgmt. commitment to stop bullying?
VA
Thu Dec 4, 2008 1:08 PM
Where I work I always have been bullied and guess what? So does everybody else! How do you stop a Director that believes in "motivation by intimidation?" She targets every single employee and most of your bullets describes her behavior 24/7. If the Director IS mgmt. and upper mgmt. knows this pattern of behavior exists and chooses to do nothing about it because they see the Director as “results oriented”, what can be done? The older employees just want out and counting how many days they have left before retirement and the young folks are too afraid to take a stand and leave.
Our group is "results oriented" and could provide everything upper mgmt. needs w/o our Director. Our group is a great, dedicated workforce of 60+ professionals but unfortunately just like a battered woman, if you're told everyday you're "nothing", after a while you could start believing it and you simply burn out...like us...
Re: Mgmt. commitment to stop bullying?
United States Marshals Service
Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:02 PM
bullying
post office
Thu Dec 4, 2008 7:10 PM
I know that this happens because it is being done currently at our post office. It is being done not by fellow carriers, but by the postmaster. She is a very intimidating person, she changes the rules all the time, without letting you know. We have filed grivences with the union about several things, but that only made it worse. What is worse is that she has been at three different post offices as supervisor. And at each of the offices she caused conflict. But what do the do, but ship her somewhere else, and finally give her a job as a postmaster. She has been written up by the management at all three places, and they promote her. What can you do?
Re Why would a manager do this ...
AF
Thu Dec 4, 2008 9:59 PM
I don't normally respond to "Diversity Manager" since logic is lost on he/she/or it, but since the point was brought up, it's worth noting for those who care about this subject. A common reason to dismiss claims of bullying is "Why would a manager do that since it only hurts the organization's performance?" The problem is, these people are applying rational thought to an irrational person. The bully isn't thinking about the impact on the office. Instead they bully is driven by the pleasure or whatever he/she or it gets from the power trip and pain they can inflict on another. The immediate gratification is more important to them than the potential long term effects.
So glad someone put this out there
Department of Veterans Affairs
Fri Dec 5, 2008 11:21 AM
This problem is rampant in the Government. I wish I had known that before I got into a Federal job. Of the examples of bullying that he lists, I have endured all but one, in almost verbatim form. Of the effects on bullying on an individual, I have endured all of them. Not to mention, these other nurses were not only doing this to me, but the patients also. I blew the whistle on them, and I got reassigned!! Luckily, OSC has taken the case. . .
Prime Example of Bullying by Management
United States Marshals Service
Fri Dec 5, 2008 8:23 PM
Your article is right on point. I have lived it. For the past 2 years, I have been bullied beyond belief. I reported a fraudulent activity by one of my supervisors to Mgmt. Retaliation soon followed. I experienced a number of tactics you mentioned in your article. I've been employed by the federal government for 29-1/2 years and have excellent work record. Suddenly, I am a poor performer and receive constant threats of removal. False accusations and no means of defense. Physician strongly recommended I remove myself from work environment before I suffered stroke or heart attack due to extreme hostility. I have been threatened while on medical leave and approached twice at medical facility while seeking treatment. I have felt helpless and reputation ruined. There are supposed to be all sorts of programs available to aid federal employees in these situations but none work. Now facing termination with less than 2 yrs to full retirement. This is bullying at its extreme.
workplace bullying
fsis
Mon Dec 8, 2008 2:25 AM
a co-worker is dealing with this issue as I type. This article is right on time. She was at wits end cause the supervisor did not attempt to do anything about this situation other than to tell her she dealt with it or transfer to another shift. She begin to to use her leave call she was to frustrated or emotionally unfit to report to work. maybe with he help of this article we can persaude the supervisors to take a step to elimanate this problem. Thank you very much for such an enlightening article.
Workplace Bullying
USDA Forest Service
Mon Dec 8, 2008 1:10 PM
First, to all those suffering from workplace bullying - do your best to tend and care for yourself to mitigate the devastating effects of bullying. As a victim of workplace bullying I'm trying to do just that. The overt bullying from my supervisor stopped after we met with his supervisor. Now he has stopped interacting with me other than when necessary, does not respond to my emails, and does not share information. This is a retaliatory response. Bullying in the workplace should be included as a part of workplace violence training. Everyone deserves to be treated with respect.
Re: Bullying
USPS
Mon Dec 8, 2008 8:14 PM
Until I read Steve Oppermann's article on bullying. I had difficulty in understanding the mentality of my fellow co-workers. I assumed it was because they were just unhappy individuals. I can now begin to focus on how I can best handle this daily dilemma of bullying, which I have allowed to affect me on a constant basis. Thank you Steve your article was enlightening!
It can grow to sadism.
Dora Dobbson private person
Mon Dec 8, 2008 11:59 PM
I was terminated on Nov 24th 2008 as a top achivement of my tormenters. All my activities were slowed down on tricky way. I already had injury when I was still forced to work with tools which were heavy for me. In case somebody tried to help, that was punished.
The tormenter got stable job and promotion.
The employer maybe had no idea what to do.
Report to the managers?
DoD
Tue Dec 9, 2008 10:20 AM
HAH!! That's rich!
Usually the problem IS the managers who bully underlings to make up for whatever perceived wrongs they experience in their own lives.
The most commom form of bullying in my agency is withholding information, then skipping over three or four levels of supervisors to whine because someone didn't do a task--forgetting to mention they NEVER HAD THE INFORMATION TO DO SO!
Then, with NSPS, it is even easier to bully by holding that pay increase over one's head like a guillotine. No matter how well a person does, that bullying manager can use the paycheck to punish for whatever slight. I've seen people with nearly perfect ratings, but who are not liked by the shirt in charge get 1% raises while a kiss-up with middling ratings get upwards of 7-10%.
Report the manager? To who? The people who like his "aggressive" stance re personnel? His bosses who are happy with keeping within budget?
Most people just quit and then sue.
Workplace bullying
USFWS
Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:14 AM
As a Union Officer our local union sees many complaints that come forward from Bargaining Unit members that probably best qualify as workplace bullying. Sometimes the complaint has elements of sexual harassment, sometimes elements of workplace violence. Often it is unclear what action the employee should pursue to stop the "abuse". If they complain under EEO they are told that many of the things they want to mention in the complaint process are not EEO matters. I may be wrong but we have been informed that because the federal government does not have a Workplace bullying policy there is no way to pursue things that are clear examples of bullying. Please advise.
Bullying
Dept. of Homeland Security
Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:51 AM
I read your article and management in our office is the cause of the bullying. I have one manager who tells me her title and says "just do it because I said so because I am the----". She is not my boss. The other thing is one of her pets talks to everyone the way he wants - belittling etc, slamming doors in workers faces when they are an inch away from the door and management gives him an award for some job he had been doing for 3 years. This is how they punish him. I tried to talk to my manager who is the head boss here and he says " I don't want to be bothered by personal problems" I went to EAP and told them and they said the workplace was hostile and wanted to see me again. I told my boss I was going to get tools to try and handle the hostility and he said I had to take sick time in order to go, so I never went back. This guy is hostile to us in the office and our field and sets them up for failure. So what do you do when management promotes this kind of behavior?
WORKPLACE BULLYING
AF
Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:36 AM
The article is good information. But you failed in the final paragraph. Is should be: what can an employee do? Most times it is management that is doing the bullying or they are aware that an employee is being bullied and don't address the problem until it gets totally out of hand.
good article, but delightedly out of place
FAA
Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:27 AM
The article did not tell me anything I did not already know, but the publicity of the problem is a service to all- I am just surprised the management oriented, anti-employee FedSmith published it! The publishers will probably dismiss all the accounts of management bullying as just the self-serving whining of disgruntled employees.
Re: good article, but delightedly out of place
usda
Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:36 AM
People with an agenda of their own see things in their own way. This is the only site I have seen that doesn't just reproduce union press releases. For the extremists or far left-wing union crowd, I guess that translates into "anti-union" or anti-employee or something else besides just parroting the unusual line of crap from our "union reps."
Please knock it off and try to be a little more in spewing your vitriol. It is very tiresome.
Workplace Bullying
Western Area Power Administration
Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:03 PM
Workplace Bullying is very real. I reported one of these instances to my supervisor who immediately turned it into a personality difference between myself and the infidividaual. Managers need more training on this because it is so real and present!
Harassment now known as Bullying by Management
DOL/EBSA
Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:53 PM
Well, I can't explain it all, it is a long and ongoing story which I can write a book about, it is a feeling that no one should have to experience at the hands of another human, such as managers and their involved personnel. I want to encourage all the people that has went through, and is going through this type of trauma on the job. Just hang in there because there is a GOD! which I pray to every night and even while on the job, my belief is that even if EEO, Union, Unfair Labor Practice, etc. dismiss the complaint with no prevail, "which has happen to me" GOD have it and they will pay for all the wrong they are doing to people, it may seem as if they have won, but everything that is done in the dark will come to the light some day, and they will pay for it in some way down the line. All predators must remember one thing when the bad times in life come their way, surely it is a pay back of what they have done wrong to others "what a pity".
HARRASSMENT
ROBINS AFB, GA
Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:16 AM
for the last 7 months i have been harrassed by another girl in our office. mostly it appears to be silent harrassment, usually when no one else is around. she wants me to retire, thinking she will receive a promotion. some instantances have, however been seen by other co-workers. my supervisor seems to be afraid of her? i have gone to the union, also presently going up the chain. my health has declined, having to take meds., just to stay in the office. what advice could you give me?
thanks
Bulling in the workplace
corp of engineers
Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:57 AM
this is a good article. This is alive an going on here at work especially with the older group of people . we fell like we cant say anything or make comments on anything. As soon as we can leave the better.
Workplace Bullying
Federal Agency
Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:21 AM
Two years ago, I was subject to intense bullying by a supervisor, which was supported by the branch chief. The person kept yelling at me out in the open so the other workers around could hear every word. This person was also yelling loudly and beligerantly at others under his supervision.
One day, he starting leaning toward me, raising his voice, discussing one of my alleged failures. I asked him to lower his voice. He threatened to have me written up for insubordination. I immediately went to my union and filed a grievance due to "hostile work environment". After I filed my grievance, the bullying stopped; I believe that he (and our branch chief) realized that I was fighting back -- and thus they backed off. One of the higher management people had a talk with him as well. Eventually, the branch chief was transferred and after that, I was put under a new team leader. I withdrew my grievance at that time and things have been fine ever since.
Bullying in the workplace
Forest Service
Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:28 AM
Thank you for an article that is a very real discription of the workplace. I related especially to the following consequences of one feeling bullied:
"Feelings of frustration and/or helplessness
Increased sense of vulnerability
Loss of confidence".
It has been my experience that bullying comes in many different sizes, shapes & colors in that many of those that bully probably have had a lot of practice since adolescence. With all those years of practice you get pretty expert at it.
Another important statement from the article:
"I would advise managers and supervisors to start by examining their own behavior...".
This is really important & personally challenging...it is easier for me to point my finger at others instead of taking a scary & honest look at my own bullying behavior.
Thanks again!!!
Insults!
VA
Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:37 AM
a few weeks ago a program manager sent a email in reply to someone. It statred where they asked about ordering supplies from. The program manager replied " why don't you ask the talking horse he does nothing all day. This email went out to a whole group of people! If that was me I would have made a grievence about that!Too me thats a hostile work environment!
Director Who Is a Bully
Department of Energy
Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:36 PM
I have witnessed several incidents where this one director takes pleasure in knocking down the confidence of his female staff especially his secretary. This secretary falls under my organization and I have brought this matter to the attention of my AM. Which the director was talked to and has been nice up until his probation period (as he is a new director the probation period is a year) was up now he is back to his abuse ways and can not be touched. I find this wrong and in excuseable. Something needs to be done.
bullying
SSA
Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:32 PM
I remember starting a new job and being told by the manager that I was considered as experienced as anyone who has been doing the same job for 15 years.
Then I was being harassed to process even more work and called a "slacker" when I got angry at the manager for pressuring me.
Do managers want the work processed correctly or do they just want the work processed?
It is all related to numerics and not aimed at quality. Technicians are not being allowed to learn their jobs properly.
I feel sorry for the claimant who is receiving poor quality service.
Why is speed always equated with good customer service?
Bullying
USPS
Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:01 PM
It is horribly sad to see intense bullying, lying and human rights abuses taking place in the USPS by their management across the whole country. Hundreds of grievances are filed and won by the lower level union reps and it costs the USPS an incredible amount of money, but they don't care. As long as they can go after union people, they will pay no matter how much it costs, even during this time of severe monetary losses being experienced by the USPS. This abuse and bullying is ruining Letter Carriers and Clerks lives as well as their families. But, no cares, not even the NALC headquarters because they aren't doing anything to stop it. The thousands of grievances against management and also letters to our National are on file as proof. As well as many witnessed conversations to National. So very very sad.
Bullying, Harassment, Victimisation, HR Failure
Individual
Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:09 AM
YES - it is violence.
Like rape.
Same effects-impact like rape with PTSD.
Made worse by HR incompetance and failure to act along with management cover ups and 'make this go away' attitude, to create a disaster situation.
The victim never has a chance. What must happen is PROFILE of the Bully andf PROFILE of the Victim, to clearly lable the type of person who offends, and demonstrate that THIS TYPE OF PSYCHOPATH in the workplace is not wanted and must be take out, companies must understand it is their BEST WORKERS and MOST ADMIRED COMPETANT workers who are bullied, as they 100% show up the bully and the harasser. Throw in the fact that they are so admired and follow the company policies to the T that they are even more a target, often isolated making them easy prey. People find them a threat.
Companies must acknowledge and promote the best workers and performance manage and get rid of the bullies, as psychopaths are NOT fixable.
Bullying
VA Hospital
Mon Mar 2, 2009 5:26 AM
I have learned so much by reading everyone's comments. The dysfunction in my team is often breath taking. Management protects the worst offenders because they seem to be intimidated as well. It's taken me over a decade to start fighting back. I've filed grievances and talked to everyone I have access to reporting the incompetence of management, particularly my supervisor. Lo and behold, changes are being made. I have something challenging to say to all of us victims of this kind of abuse - grow a back bone, don't let fear shut you up, it feels so much better to take action than to sit behind closed doors complaining with co-workers which doesn't do any good, unless you are organizing a union or making an action plan. I am astounded by the amount of fear exists in federal workplaces, generations ago, people died fighting for their rights on the job recognizing the indignity of being bullied and beaten by a broken system. You and I are worth it - take a stand, we have everything to lose.
Re: Bullying
VA
Wed Mar 4, 2009 3:42 PM
Corruption at VA
Private Citizen
Mon Mar 2, 2009 11:19 AM
I can't help but think that 'my' VA employee who happened to get my claim by virtue of a numerical or alphabetical sequence
understood and possibly shared some of the distinctions of my PTSD secondary to the personal assault of domestic violence.
The corrupt supervisors and managers are gone now and I am left with the feeling or notion that 'my' VA employee is breathing easier. (Sort of like the relief I felt when I resisted and defended myself and separated from an abusive husband.)
Veterans are affected by VA employees being bullied to produce end product credits so their managers and directors get big, fat bonuses in the compensation area.
It happened to me!
USDA
Thu Mar 5, 2009 11:02 AM
I lived it , but I thought the action of my supervisor was poor supervisor skills. Oh, they were skills all right. Very subtle skills.
I can look back now and I cringe at some of the numerous scenarios and actions that should have been reported. I was too devasted. I suffered from each and every item listed. In fact, several times I thought of suicide. Geesh! That is so not me! ...and yet.
My saving grace was a counselor that taught me skills to deal with this particular supervisor. The counselor also helped me to see each situation for what it was and not internalize it.
I was finally shifted to another position and supervisor. Even so, it was several years before I felt safe from the vindictive actions of my previous supervisor.
Thank you to my new supervisor who has patience and understanding...and my back!
VA - Employer of Choice
VA
Thu Mar 5, 2009 11:13 AM
In 2000 I represented Joe, a male RN who worked in mental health for 19 years and was terminated by the VA. During the 15-month ordeal Joe, who was a veteran, suffered physically and mentally and was hospitalized at the VA.
The legal process culminated in a hearing in front of a Disciplinary Appeals Board which ordered that Joe would be reinstated, receive backpay and benefits and be restored to duty as far away from his previous worksite as possible. Management put him back to work 95 miles away from his home on an acute medical ward. Joe had not worked in acute medicine for 20 years and believed management assigned him to that ward to get him fired for performance. He committed suicide 4 days before he was to start work.
We ‘won’ the case but Joe is dead, his widow could not sue the VA for wrongful death and the managers have all prospered and been promoted! They knew he was fragile and pushed this veteran over the edge.
I continue to fight bullying in the workplace! It’s only right!
Re: VA - Employer of Choice
VA
Sun Mar 8, 2009 11:21 AM
The perpetrators have either been promoted or retired.
Re: VA - Employer of Choice
W.G. Bill Hefner VA Medical Center
Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:30 PM
Polarization
USDA
Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:06 AM
Thank you for your article. It was very good and it did provide good information. I reading the comments though I see there is this polarization towards management.
May I ask, what about people who are self-proclaimed victims and cry "Bullying" because they are unhappy with their life? How can management weed out those versus the true victims? Perhaps a focus on a future article, Mr. Oppermann?
Re: Polarization
USDA
Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:11 PM
Bullying in the Workplace
USDA
Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:25 AM
An co-worker in my office came to my workstation to ask that I accompany her to my supervisor's office so we could "talk". I refused to go to my supervisor's office without representation due to my supervisor's egregious past behavior. When I refused, the co-worker began to call me names and made many other of negative statements about me while my supervisor stood in very close proximity and witnessed the verbal attack. My supervisor did nothing to intervene or stop it. I would say the actions of my co-worker and supervisor are contrary to the Directive on
Code of Conduct and Responsibilities. My supervisor has never addressed the issue or apologized for the situation.
Anger vs Bulling
Anderson & Anderson
Fri Mar 27, 2009 1:57 PM
Is self-control or anger management related to bullying?
This is a good start.
Bullying
US District Court
Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:02 PM
What if someone is being bullied by managment? What recourse, if any, is there for the employee?
Bullying is Condoned at the VA
Former VA Employee
Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:29 AM
I was a victim of bullying and discrimination within the Department of Veterans Affairs. When I sought help from upper-level management, they victimized me further by bullying me and supported the manager's rogue actions. The manager's bullying worsened and he is now out of control. He even bullies his staff by posting my complaints on the internal database to send the message that this is what happens to people who file complaints. He has posted my social security number--didn't VA have a problem with a disregard for privacy and veteran's SSN's?
What is really disturbing is this is the legal department of VA and this man is an attorney who oversees legal actions for 3 states! In addition, I was a victim of constructive discharge and he has been rewarded and recommended by the Office of General Counsel for the VA Leadership Program. Rest assured, in the current environment, he will be promoted.
Re: Bullying is Condoned at the VA
W.G. Bill Hefner VA Medical Center
Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:22 PM
Most Informative
Medical Office
Sat Jul 11, 2009 9:07 AM
Until having read your article I neither understood what I was going through at my job.
However and unfortunately, it is management itself that allows this type of behavior to continue, and needless to say, mentally, physically and emotionaly it is very detrimental and takes its toll.
Again, thank you for your insightful article!
CS
Bullying by SOE/AW/Warden
Federal Bureau of Prisons
Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:07 AM
The WARDEN, ASSOCIATE WARDEN, AND SOE (my total chain of command) stuck me on a schedule that I could not work and take care of my children. My wife died from a massive heart attack (she was only 30). It left me with my two daughters (9 & 8 yrs old). They INTENTIONALLY put me on a schedule that would have had DSS locking me up for CHILD NEGLECT. All 3 of these individuals conspired together on how to get rid of me. I had more time in the gov't than my boss (SOE). She was the ex-wife of my first boss and came in with a "chip on her shoulder" and tried to make me look like I didn't know what I was doing (8 years as the SOR and 15+ years in the BOP). These individuals did not care about not only my situation (widowed w/children), but they did not care about my position (SOR)....they didn't like me and they ALL conspired together to CRIPPLE me to the point I had to resign!
My kids not only would have lost their mother, but also their father....This stuff makes me sick!