nobody's getting promoted for a long, long time--assuming that RIFs don't push us out the door first...
Re: Civilian Non-Vets, Get Ready...
Analyst DOA Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:56 AM
Promotions here are on the rise, it's business as usual.
Re: Civilian Non-Vets, Get Ready...
Aerospace Engineer DoD Thu Jan 1, 2009 8:35 AM
Under NSPS, nobody wants to get "promoted" anyway. Engineering Directorate is advertising Chief Engineer positions and can't figure out why nobody is applying for them. Let's see, I was a GS-12 but now I'm a YD-2, as is everybody else on the GS-12 to -14 level.
Why would anybody step into a position that has a greatly-increased level of responsibility, a lot more hours that you don't get paid for, and a GS-15 or Colonel that calls you in the middle of the night when something goes wrong, for maybe a 3% raise?
Civilian Non-Vets, Get Ready...
GOV WORKER DoD Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:51 AM
That's not even possible the way the Gov goes out of it's way to avoid Vets by Civilian Non-Vets.
Re: Civilian Non-Vets, Get Ready...
HR VA Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:14 AM
Did you even bother to read the article.
"The federal government already employs far more veterans, as a percentage of all employees, than does the civilian labor force (CLF). As noted in the aforementioned OPM Report to Congress on the employment of veterans, the percentages and comparisons as of FY-2006 were as follows:
– Veterans as percentage of all employees – 25.4% (versus 8.9 % in CLF)
– Disabled Veterans as percentage of all employees – 5.4% (versus 0.8% in CLF)
– 30% or More Disabled Veterans as percentage of all employees – 2.9% (versus 0.3% in CLF)"
For our particular office we are 56% veteran.
Re: Civilian Non-Vets, Get Ready...
Retired DoD Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:53 PM
Do not kid yourself that the higher percentage of veterans working for the government is in any large part due to kindness or preference. More government jobs are similar to military jobs than other areas. The retirement benefits are carried over into civil service. The government's discrimination against veterans takes many forms. It mostly comes from individual supervisors who are unchecked in their discriminatory practices. The long standing practice of cheating Reserve and National Guard soldiers out of their military leave time when it fell over a weekend is one example of institutional discrimination that went on for years until finally stopped by the courts. Even after the courts stopped it, the government just couldn't seem to figure out how to repay the soldiers for their lost leave unless the soldier had maintained all of the associated records.
Re: Civilian Non-Vets, Get Ready...
Prof Small College Fri Jan 2, 2009 6:38 PM
One hundred percent of the non-veterans employed by the federal government do not have any federal service.
Returning Veterans
IT Specialist Census Bureau Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:53 AM
Bring them on. There's always room for a veteran in the government. Thanks for serving your country and putting your life on the line.
What a terrible homecoming
Nameless, Faceless Nobody DOD Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:20 AM
I weep for what is to come. When we bring home our warriors they will find a decimated economy. The reservists and guardsmen left jobs and businesses that won't be there when they come back. When they try to get a fed job, many will find that they don't get the same job opportunity that the regulars get. The regulars will find that the opportunity is a lot slimmer than they were led to believe. Those already with jobs will rightly not want to lose them to a vet coming in. Is anyone thinking about and planning for this time?
category rating
supervisor hhs Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:24 AM
On its face, category rating is just another way to circumvent hiring qualified veterans. This is a practice that is accomplished every day by non-veteran hiring authorities violating current laws to reach favorites, so why is a new method needed? Veterans earned and deserve preference for hiring in all federal jobs (not just the low paying ones), the majority of the federal work force will allways be non-veterans trying to impose their will for personal gain. It is really shameful, when you think about it and consider that most of these hirings result in "lifetime" appointments -- veteran or not.
SPECIAL THANK YOU: VETS
Federal Civil Service U.S. Army Human Rescources Command Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:16 AM
It seems today we forget those who gave so much for us. I beleive today those who really understand the sacrifice made are other vets. It is sad to say we have forgotton or take for granted their sacrifices.
So I would like to take this time to say a special thank you all those that serve.
Veteran rights
TSgt USAF Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:05 PM
Those who diminish the rights of a veteran will find their own rights diminished in return, for we are the keepers of the constitution and thus all rights granted to every citizen.
Food for thought
Veteran Hiring
EEO Specialist EPA Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:32 PM
Most agencies with the exception of VA, will not hire veterans. As long as they can select from several different certifications, they have no incentive to. OPM should make it mandatory that one in ten new hires for the year, be a qualified veteran. Until that happens these agencies will continue to passover the veterans preferance, as well as, the veterans on the cert list.
Disabled vets
Ex Postal Worker USPS Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:13 PM
While the term "disabled veteran" conjures up images of the current Iraq war veterans who are seriously disabled, most veterans rated by the VA are far less impaired. When I worked for the USPS, (which has substantial physical requirements for letter carriers) many of my coworkers were "disabled vets" as defined by the VA, and there was no impact on their ability to stand sorting mail for 3-4 hours a day, lifting 70 pounds, or walking to deliver mail. Some were rated disabled because they had been injured at one time, but were now obviously quite recovered. I don't believe a recent veteran who is missing a limb gets any greater preference than someone with the same rating, who suffers very little impairment. I understand that newly returning vets are having trouble getting disability from the VA--probably because the budget is already going to folks like my fine former colleagues who don't need any accommodation and are not disabled in the eyes of anyone but the VA.
Re: Disabled vets
Diversity Manager DOL Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:07 PM
One only has to look at the number of "disabled CS" who are receiving a pension that can't qualify for SS disability to show who is abusing the system. There is absolutely no reason for Fed disability to exist if you can't meet SS requirements than you should be working and not a drag on the taxpayers
Re: Disabled vets
CS SSA Thu Jan 1, 2009 1:38 PM
DOL, I don't know if you know this or not but CS disability from the military is different from SS disability.
Re: Disabled vets
CS SSA Thu Jan 1, 2009 1:43 PM
How, do you know? Postal worker. Are you a doctor? You don't know what problems they suffer or pain pills they take to get through the day.
Re: Disabled vets
IT Specialist DOD Fri Jan 2, 2009 8:53 AM
DOL - Even private sector recognizes the fact that you can become disabled to the point where you can not perform your current job. Therefore, you qualify for disability benefits. SS on the other hand has more stringent requirements to meet with respect to being totally disabled and not being able to hold any job whatsoever inorder to get SS. Two different levels of requirements to meet. Federal Disability benefits are still based upon your years of service. Also, if you ever have looked at disability paperwork, it is not a cakewalk to fill out. OPM contracted medical services reviews the paperwork with OPM and makes a determination whether or not you are disabled. This can take 3 to 6 months to accomplish. Meantime, the employee is usually being harassed by management and threatened to be fired for performance or excessive absence from work. Even though management knows the conduct is related to medical reasons.
I Support Our Veterans
Supervisor USA Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:29 PM
I am extremely proud of our men and women who are serving or who have served. 100% of my staff are vets and each does a magnificent job at work. Given the opportunity to hire more people, I will give preference to hiring vets.
Vets Prefrence need strengthened
Veteran DHS Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:30 PM
It is obvious that agencies do not veterans, and congress supports it. look how many of our veterans retire between the age of 37-40. Look how many of them are in better shape and even if they have a disability have already given a service to our country can not get hired into Federal Law Enforcement, because agencies are given to much discretion in this area.........
Also, they are creative and will find ways not to hire veterans because they do not have to give vacation etc. at ahigher rate. In the FAM service it is well known and has been stated that they do not want disabled veterans in the service.
Re: Vets Prefrence need strengthened
HR Spec IRS Thu Jan 1, 2009 3:26 PM
The reason vets who are 37-40 years old can't get into a law enforcement position is simply because of their age. If you're over 37 you're automatically eliminated, regardless of your veteran status. The reasoning is that you'll never qualify for a law enforcement retirement before you'll be forced to retire at age 57. Could this rule be changed? Yes, but it will probably call for an act of Congress.
Re: Disabled vets
Gov Worker DoD Wed Dec 31, 2008 6:22 PM
Ex Postal worker. So are you now a VA rater? Someone with 50% PTSD probably could work in the post office. Hearing issues, foot issues, etc.. Many Vets that used to work at the USPS were not really given any assistance and had to leave also. Maybe you should read BVA decisions on the VA website before you are quick to judge the "disabled Vets." I know plenty in wheel chairs if that would make you happy.
Disabled vets
HR Spec IRS Thu Jan 1, 2009 3:33 PM
I think the system needs changing, if only to make it more equitable for veterans. For example, why should a vet who never left this country, but whose congenital kidney defect flared up while in the service (resulting in its removal) get the same points as a veteran who lost a limb while in combat? Or get more points that an veteran wo served in combat but was fortunate enough not to lose a limb?
As for hiring vets, I think a lot of managers simply assume that military experience is all a vet has to offer, and that it won't translate to the job being filled. It's very difficult to re-eucate this mind set, about as difficult as it is to re-educate the military mindset about the role of women in combat.
Re: Disabled vets
Prof Small College Fri Jan 2, 2009 6:46 PM
If you have served in the military I will accept your statement at face value, even I do not concur. If you are not a veteran what you think does not matter. Disabled veterans have been disabled while in the service of their country. It does matter not how the disability occurred. Have you been disabled in the service of your country? Paper cuts excluded.
Re: Disabled vets
NWA NCA Mon Jan 5, 2009 9:41 AM
It's odd for a "Prof" to say that what anyone thinks "does not matter". It does matter what all of us think, including non-veterans. Otherwise, why all the complaints on this & other articles about the devious ways non-vet managers try to get around hiring vets?
Whether you like it or not, what NVs think of vets matters (and vice-versa). The HR Spec makes a valid point & one that is actually supportive of employment of vets. Back to your ivory tower, Prof..
Re: Disabled vets
Diversity Manager DOL Mon Jan 5, 2009 5:07 PM
all govt employees are slackers whether they are civilian or military
Re: Disabled vets
NWA NCA Wed Jan 7, 2009 10:02 AM
"All" govt employees??? What kind of simple-minded fool would make a generalization like that? Including active military personnel as well? All govt employees, civilian & military, like ALL members of any large population group, don't agree on whether the sun will rise in the east tomorrow morning. DOL, looks like someone snuck some loco weed into your feed
Re: Disabled vets
QAS DLA Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:05 PM
I agree 100 percent Professor. And who is this Diversity Manager at DOL? I feel for anyone who works for you. Did you ever think that you could be the reason that people don't do their jobs?
Quals?
Supervisor USFS Mon Jan 5, 2009 4:56 PM
We have a large influx of returning veterans to come while at the same time our budgets and organizations have been reduced to minimal numbers. What vacancies will those veterans fill? First they have to be qualified for the position and in many cases certified for the type of work they will be doing. Is there an expectation that we will ignore those requirements just to fill positions with veterans? We do have many employees ready to retire within five years, but these are career employees with much experience and many qualifications.
Re: Quals?
QAS DLA Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:55 PM
And where did all these career employees get all this experience and qualifications? Did they have it when they began their careers? I have 35 years, am qualified and experienced but when I got out of the Air Force and started my Federal career many years ago I was as green as anyone else. We all have to start somewhere.
Avoiding the Veteran with multiple certificates
Federal Career Intern HUD Tue Jan 6, 2009 1:36 PM
What is left unsaid is that many agencies post multiple annoucements and end up with several certificates and then hire from the certificate the person they wanted to hire in the first place. This is rampant in the case of internal candidates!
As these veterans come home and some will seek federal employment, they need to know that they have rights and that DOL Vets will ask all the right questions. It may not help because agencies are good at throwing up smoke and mirrors but if enough veterans press the issue they will find a way through the smoke screen.
Re: Avoiding the Veteran with multiple certificates
Lucky Lady OPM Fri Jan 9, 2009 3:31 PM
Agreed, agencies often consider candidates from several sources and often "hire the person they wanted to hire in the first place." There are understandable reasons for both. Sometimes it's best to look outside the organization for new blood; other times, a good candidate is readily apparent within the organization. A selecting official will usually have an ideal of who would make a good choice internally. This is not a matter of "smoke and mirrors" or an attempt to fool anybody. Each vacancy has to be approached on its own merits. And sometimes, the selected candidate, internal or external, is a veteran.
Returning Military personnel into the job force
Tax Examiner IRS Tue Jan 6, 2009 4:12 PM
Well, after my nephew spent 4 years in Afghanistan he was returned to the US to complete the balance of his "contract" with the US Army as an Army Reservist. Mind you this kid is 22 years old, is ready to fulfill his duty states side and take advantage of the college or trade school of his choice, paid for by the US Government as promised when he enlisted for an 8 year contract while a senior in high school. Apparently this kid is being deployed again for 15 months somewhere in the USA, lives with his grandparents because he cannot bear any type of loud or prolonged noise. It
s nice and quiet at grandmom's and grandpop's home. Stands with his back against the wall at all the family gatherings and must leave for a walk if the laughter gets too loud. Oh yeah, and school? He was told HE is to put up the $10,000 for his HVAC training and wait for the money from the gov't. He was told "there has been a change about the money and the schooling". Nice, huh? He got a job on his own.
Wait
Quality Assurance Specialist DCMA Wed Jan 7, 2009 2:12 PM
Tax Examiner...this won't be the first or last blow to your nephew delivered by a government that talks the talk but has a problem with walking the walk. May he find it within himself to succeed regardless of the obstacles placed in his way.
funds
founder red river ecoloical studies institute 420vance league city tx. 77573 Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:38 AM
can you guide me to a VA SOURCE FOR A BLESSING AND FUNDING THANKS . I JUST GOT MY 501C3 IN APRIL 13 2009 I'M A PUR NOVICE THANKS- TOM FERRIS
What about the DVAAP?
Fed Worker/disabled veteran DON SE Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:06 AM
Veterans and especially Disabled Veterans of any wartime should get more bennefits and special treatment than any other special interest group that are not Veterans. The fact is that we as Veterans have put our lives on the line for this country, so how come we do not get the special treatment that other groups are getting today? After all Veterans are made-up of all groups of people. There is a program for Diabled Veterans that when I did some research on and asked why nobody in the Federal Government pays any attention to it the answer I got from a Federal Official is "That It Has No Teeth" (uses words like "shall", instead of words like "should") as a Law. This Law and Program is that of the "Disabled Veterans Affirmative Action Program (DVAAP)". There is a lot of paper work that is put out on this DVAAP Program, but I have yet to see it's true implimentation for which it is truely carried out as was intended, and this is in the Department of Defense (DOD) for civil servents. Please follow-up on this DVAAP Program and do more research for the interest of all Veterans and especially Disabled Veterans..
10 pt vets can also file late applications
Engineer USFS Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:45 AM
Another 10 pt disabled vet benefit.
You can apply for a job even after the advertisement is closed. As long as they haven't officially hired someone, they must consider your late application.
Good luck trying to use this one though. Not a benefit that appears to be well understood. But you can find it in writing under the OPM site.
VETERANS VS COLLEGE GRADS
QAS DLA Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:56 PM
Unfortunately this agency thinks that a College degree is far more important than any experience in the U.S. Military. For many years people worked here and performed their jobs with no college degrees. These days almost every position requires a degree and (probably) most returning Veterans are lacking these mandatory credentials. In a Logistics agency such as this, the best folks here are the Veterans; those who have actually worked on the weapons systems for which we buy parts. They have been in supply and have ordered and provisioned these parts, they have flown in the helicopters, rode in the tanks, fixed the aircraft and most importantly they KNOW what the customer needs.
It's a shame that the jobs they deserve will be given to a bunch of immature 22 year olds with backpacks and flip flops. I say give the Vets the jobs, and they can work on their college degrees while they are working to support the custromers that they used to be.
Veterans
IT Spec DOD Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:24 PM
Every veteran who has severed HONORABLY should be given top preference in federal jobs if they are qualified. There are simply not enough managers in the gov who are veterans. I say YES, YES, hire more VETS!
Affirmative Action for veterans! front of the line, top of the list, mandatory!
Veterans and Jobs
Electronics Tech Dept of Veterans Affairs Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:54 AM
I am very worried that the Veterans who have fought for this country are returning and having to compete with NON-Veterans for jobs.I am seeing more and more personnell of non veteran status recieve jobs that I believe should be reserved for our fighting Men and Women who are returning from duty for our country.
Work for what you get
IT Specialist Army Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:01 AM
I accepted a temp GS-2 as a 5 pt Vet many years ago and was happy to get that job...and I worked hard for many years to get the position I now have, never assuming I was owed a promotion or expecting it just because I was a vet. Yes some preference is good, but you still have to work for what you get and be qualified, and the rest comes.
Civilian Non-Vets, Get Ready...
DoD
Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:39 AM
nobody's getting promoted for a long, long time--assuming that RIFs don't push us out the door first...
Re: Civilian Non-Vets, Get Ready...
DOA
Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:56 AM
Re: Civilian Non-Vets, Get Ready...
DoD
Thu Jan 1, 2009 8:35 AM
Why would anybody step into a position that has a greatly-increased level of responsibility, a lot more hours that you don't get paid for, and a GS-15 or Colonel that calls you in the middle of the night when something goes wrong, for maybe a 3% raise?
Civilian Non-Vets, Get Ready...
DoD
Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:51 AM
That's not even possible the way the Gov goes out of it's way to avoid Vets by Civilian Non-Vets.
Re: Civilian Non-Vets, Get Ready...
VA
Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:14 AM
"The federal government already employs far more veterans, as a percentage of all employees, than does the civilian labor force (CLF). As noted in the aforementioned OPM Report to Congress on the employment of veterans, the percentages and comparisons as of FY-2006 were as follows:
– Veterans as percentage of all employees – 25.4% (versus 8.9 % in CLF)
– Disabled Veterans as percentage of all employees – 5.4% (versus 0.8% in CLF)
– 30% or More Disabled Veterans as percentage of all employees – 2.9% (versus 0.3% in CLF)"
For our particular office we are 56% veteran.
Re: Civilian Non-Vets, Get Ready...
DoD
Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:53 PM
Re: Civilian Non-Vets, Get Ready...
Small College
Fri Jan 2, 2009 6:38 PM
Returning Veterans
Census Bureau
Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:53 AM
Bring them on. There's always room for a veteran in the government. Thanks for serving your country and putting your life on the line.
What a terrible homecoming
DOD
Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:20 AM
I weep for what is to come. When we bring home our warriors they will find a decimated economy. The reservists and guardsmen left jobs and businesses that won't be there when they come back. When they try to get a fed job, many will find that they don't get the same job opportunity that the regulars get. The regulars will find that the opportunity is a lot slimmer than they were led to believe. Those already with jobs will rightly not want to lose them to a vet coming in. Is anyone thinking about and planning for this time?
category rating
hhs
Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:24 AM
On its face, category rating is just another way to circumvent hiring qualified veterans. This is a practice that is accomplished every day by non-veteran hiring authorities violating current laws to reach favorites, so why is a new method needed? Veterans earned and deserve preference for hiring in all federal jobs (not just the low paying ones), the majority of the federal work force will allways be non-veterans trying to impose their will for personal gain. It is really shameful, when you think about it and consider that most of these hirings result in "lifetime" appointments -- veteran or not.
SPECIAL THANK YOU: VETS
U.S. Army Human Rescources Command
Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:16 AM
It seems today we forget those who gave so much for us. I beleive today those who really understand the sacrifice made are other vets. It is sad to say we have forgotton or take for granted their sacrifices.
So I would like to take this time to say a special thank you all those that serve.
Veteran rights
USAF
Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:05 PM
Those who diminish the rights of a veteran will find their own rights diminished in return, for we are the keepers of the constitution and thus all rights granted to every citizen.
Food for thought
Veteran Hiring
EPA
Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:32 PM
Most agencies with the exception of VA, will not hire veterans. As long as they can select from several different certifications, they have no incentive to. OPM should make it mandatory that one in ten new hires for the year, be a qualified veteran. Until that happens these agencies will continue to passover the veterans preferance, as well as, the veterans on the cert list.
Disabled vets
USPS
Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:13 PM
While the term "disabled veteran" conjures up images of the current Iraq war veterans who are seriously disabled, most veterans rated by the VA are far less impaired. When I worked for the USPS, (which has substantial physical requirements for letter carriers) many of my coworkers were "disabled vets" as defined by the VA, and there was no impact on their ability to stand sorting mail for 3-4 hours a day, lifting 70 pounds, or walking to deliver mail. Some were rated disabled because they had been injured at one time, but were now obviously quite recovered. I don't believe a recent veteran who is missing a limb gets any greater preference than someone with the same rating, who suffers very little impairment. I understand that newly returning vets are having trouble getting disability from the VA--probably because the budget is already going to folks like my fine former colleagues who don't need any accommodation and are not disabled in the eyes of anyone but the VA.
Re: Disabled vets
DOL
Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:07 PM
Re: Disabled vets
SSA
Thu Jan 1, 2009 1:38 PM
Re: Disabled vets
SSA
Thu Jan 1, 2009 1:43 PM
Re: Disabled vets
DOD
Fri Jan 2, 2009 8:53 AM
I Support Our Veterans
USA
Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:29 PM
I am extremely proud of our men and women who are serving or who have served. 100% of my staff are vets and each does a magnificent job at work. Given the opportunity to hire more people, I will give preference to hiring vets.
Vets Prefrence need strengthened
DHS
Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:30 PM
It is obvious that agencies do not veterans, and congress supports it. look how many of our veterans retire between the age of 37-40. Look how many of them are in better shape and even if they have a disability have already given a service to our country can not get hired into Federal Law Enforcement, because agencies are given to much discretion in this area.........
Also, they are creative and will find ways not to hire veterans because they do not have to give vacation etc. at ahigher rate. In the FAM service it is well known and has been stated that they do not want disabled veterans in the service.
Re: Vets Prefrence need strengthened
IRS
Thu Jan 1, 2009 3:26 PM
Re: Disabled vets
DoD
Wed Dec 31, 2008 6:22 PM
Ex Postal worker. So are you now a VA rater? Someone with 50% PTSD probably could work in the post office. Hearing issues, foot issues, etc.. Many Vets that used to work at the USPS were not really given any assistance and had to leave also. Maybe you should read BVA decisions on the VA website before you are quick to judge the "disabled Vets." I know plenty in wheel chairs if that would make you happy.
Disabled vets
IRS
Thu Jan 1, 2009 3:33 PM
I think the system needs changing, if only to make it more equitable for veterans. For example, why should a vet who never left this country, but whose congenital kidney defect flared up while in the service (resulting in its removal) get the same points as a veteran who lost a limb while in combat? Or get more points that an veteran wo served in combat but was fortunate enough not to lose a limb?
As for hiring vets, I think a lot of managers simply assume that military experience is all a vet has to offer, and that it won't translate to the job being filled. It's very difficult to re-eucate this mind set, about as difficult as it is to re-educate the military mindset about the role of women in combat.
Re: Disabled vets
Small College
Fri Jan 2, 2009 6:46 PM
Re: Disabled vets
NCA
Mon Jan 5, 2009 9:41 AM
Whether you like it or not, what NVs think of vets matters (and vice-versa). The HR Spec makes a valid point & one that is actually supportive of employment of vets. Back to your ivory tower, Prof..
Re: Disabled vets
DOL
Mon Jan 5, 2009 5:07 PM
Re: Disabled vets
NCA
Wed Jan 7, 2009 10:02 AM
Re: Disabled vets
DLA
Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:05 PM
Quals?
USFS
Mon Jan 5, 2009 4:56 PM
We have a large influx of returning veterans to come while at the same time our budgets and organizations have been reduced to minimal numbers. What vacancies will those veterans fill? First they have to be qualified for the position and in many cases certified for the type of work they will be doing. Is there an expectation that we will ignore those requirements just to fill positions with veterans? We do have many employees ready to retire within five years, but these are career employees with much experience and many qualifications.
Re: Quals?
DLA
Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:55 PM
Avoiding the Veteran with multiple certificates
HUD
Tue Jan 6, 2009 1:36 PM
What is left unsaid is that many agencies post multiple annoucements and end up with several certificates and then hire from the certificate the person they wanted to hire in the first place. This is rampant in the case of internal candidates!
As these veterans come home and some will seek federal employment, they need to know that they have rights and that DOL Vets will ask all the right questions. It may not help because agencies are good at throwing up smoke and mirrors but if enough veterans press the issue they will find a way through the smoke screen.
Re: Avoiding the Veteran with multiple certificates
OPM
Fri Jan 9, 2009 3:31 PM
Returning Military personnel into the job force
IRS
Tue Jan 6, 2009 4:12 PM
Well, after my nephew spent 4 years in Afghanistan he was returned to the US to complete the balance of his "contract" with the US Army as an Army Reservist. Mind you this kid is 22 years old, is ready to fulfill his duty states side and take advantage of the college or trade school of his choice, paid for by the US Government as promised when he enlisted for an 8 year contract while a senior in high school. Apparently this kid is being deployed again for 15 months somewhere in the USA, lives with his grandparents because he cannot bear any type of loud or prolonged noise. It
s nice and quiet at grandmom's and grandpop's home. Stands with his back against the wall at all the family gatherings and must leave for a walk if the laughter gets too loud. Oh yeah, and school? He was told HE is to put up the $10,000 for his HVAC training and wait for the money from the gov't. He was told "there has been a change about the money and the schooling". Nice, huh? He got a job on his own.
Wait
DCMA
Wed Jan 7, 2009 2:12 PM
Tax Examiner...this won't be the first or last blow to your nephew delivered by a government that talks the talk but has a problem with walking the walk. May he find it within himself to succeed regardless of the obstacles placed in his way.
funds
420vance league city tx. 77573
Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:38 AM
can you guide me to a VA SOURCE FOR A BLESSING AND FUNDING THANKS . I JUST GOT MY 501C3 IN APRIL 13 2009 I'M A PUR NOVICE THANKS- TOM FERRIS
What about the DVAAP?
DON SE
Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:06 AM
Veterans and especially Disabled Veterans of any wartime should get more bennefits and special treatment than any other special interest group that are not Veterans. The fact is that we as Veterans have put our lives on the line for this country, so how come we do not get the special treatment that other groups are getting today? After all Veterans are made-up of all groups of people. There is a program for Diabled Veterans that when I did some research on and asked why nobody in the Federal Government pays any attention to it the answer I got from a Federal Official is "That It Has No Teeth" (uses words like "shall", instead of words like "should") as a Law. This Law and Program is that of the "Disabled Veterans Affirmative Action Program (DVAAP)". There is a lot of paper work that is put out on this DVAAP Program, but I have yet to see it's true implimentation for which it is truely carried out as was intended, and this is in the Department of Defense (DOD) for civil servents. Please follow-up on this DVAAP Program and do more research for the interest of all Veterans and especially Disabled Veterans..
10 pt vets can also file late applications
USFS
Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:45 AM
Another 10 pt disabled vet benefit.
You can apply for a job even after the advertisement is closed. As long as they haven't officially hired someone, they must consider your late application.
Good luck trying to use this one though. Not a benefit that appears to be well understood. But you can find it in writing under the OPM site.
VETERANS VS COLLEGE GRADS
DLA
Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:56 PM
Unfortunately this agency thinks that a College degree is far more important than any experience in the U.S. Military. For many years people worked here and performed their jobs with no college degrees. These days almost every position requires a degree and (probably) most returning Veterans are lacking these mandatory credentials. In a Logistics agency such as this, the best folks here are the Veterans; those who have actually worked on the weapons systems for which we buy parts. They have been in supply and have ordered and provisioned these parts, they have flown in the helicopters, rode in the tanks, fixed the aircraft and most importantly they KNOW what the customer needs.
It's a shame that the jobs they deserve will be given to a bunch of immature 22 year olds with backpacks and flip flops. I say give the Vets the jobs, and they can work on their college degrees while they are working to support the custromers that they used to be.
Veterans
DOD
Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:24 PM
Every veteran who has severed HONORABLY should be given top preference in federal jobs if they are qualified. There are simply not enough managers in the gov who are veterans. I say YES, YES, hire more VETS!
Affirmative Action for veterans! front of the line, top of the list, mandatory!
Veterans and Jobs
Dept of Veterans Affairs
Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:54 AM
I am very worried that the Veterans who have fought for this country are returning and having to compete with NON-Veterans for jobs.I am seeing more and more personnell of non veteran status recieve jobs that I believe should be reserved for our fighting Men and Women who are returning from duty for our country.
Work for what you get
Army
Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:01 AM
I accepted a temp GS-2 as a 5 pt Vet many years ago and was happy to get that job...and I worked hard for many years to get the position I now have, never assuming I was owed a promotion or expecting it just because I was a vet. Yes some preference is good, but you still have to work for what you get and be qualified, and the rest comes.