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amen

n/a
n/a
Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:07 AM

I am with you 100%. The worst part about it is if this exact plan was a Republican driven plan they would run into little conflict with those speaking out against it now, all the conflict then would be coming from the Democrats.

Re: amen

HUD DUD
HUD
Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:27 AM
According to our President last night, this is a republican spending plan that he inherited. Hah!

I think he forgot who has controlled the House and Senate for the past two years, and it was he, was it not, that broke his promises on transparency in the budget process AND signed off on 9,000 earmarks.

Re: amen

Acountant, Retired GS 14
DOE, Albuquerque
Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:41 PM
The Republicans are 40% of Congress and had 40% of the earmarks. What is your point? Republicans will not and cannot do better. You are just bitter because you are out of power...for a long, long time...lol

Re: amen

IT Specialist
DOD
Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:43 PM
Regardless of party, our Rights under the Constitution are being userped by our Government. The Government hates the Constitution because it is a document that is supposed to limit what the Government can do. The Constitution is for us "The People" and not the Government. Government doesn't believe in "Rights" for the people. Government only believes in its rights. People are fed up. Time to throw all of these bums out of office.

Thanks You

Mental Health Specialist
Indian Health Services
Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:29 AM

Yes, I am an independent and over the years have crossed political lines at the vooting booth. I strong agree with you, I continue to get e-mails (some hate mail) from some of my Republican friends. We don't need this, we MUST unite around our President and work through problems common to all of our citizens.

Thank you for speaking out what I was feeling. This is one of the most improtant times in history and we need to really pull together!

Maybe so, Maybe not

Program Analyst
Veterans Administration
Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:41 AM

While I applaud your comments and the intent of your message you forget that this president is attempting to achieve radical changes that are socialistic in nature. You proclaim that we all should support and get behind a president that is using fear and scare tactics to undermine the individual rights of the american citizen faster than any other president in modern history. A huge number of economists who are qualified to be analyzing our economic woes are saying the president is shooting our economy in the heart with his enourmous spending of ghost dollars, among these are numerous Nobel Prize winners. Perhaps you think we need to stop making so much noise about cloaked efforts to take away our individual rights to keep and bare arms. I hope that somehow we survive as a nation but based on projections of the deficits his policies are going to incite I doubt that this country will continue to stand as one nation in my life time and for sure not in my children's. Keep quite? Right!

Re: Maybe so, Maybe not

Paralegal Specialist
USPS
Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:16 AM
This is a good example of the divisive misinformation out there. Restoring the tax rate for wealthy individuals to what is was under Reagan in no way can be considered socialism.

Re: Maybe so, Maybe not

Acountant, Retired GS 14
DOE, Albuquerque
Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:39 PM
Socialism is the government ownership and management of business. I guess The Republican's in Congress are Socialist!! Liberalism is the regulation of an independent economy. Please get your definitions right or people may call you Facists, also incorrectly. In fact, I know people who call the Young Republicans the Hitler Youth, also incorrectly. There is even poltical writings that say that right wing philosophy is , racist, backwards, based on superstion, Ati thinking and anti science, authoritarian etc. Lets not call each other name.

Here's a Novel Idea

Civil Servant
DOD
Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:43 AM

I think the author is signing on to an economic disaster with the current Administration's SPENDING plan. Investment is just another term for SPENDING.

What ever happened to SAVING? I have written Congressmen and others indicating that we should encourage SAVINGS--for example, why not use TARP money to help banks support 5% on regular savings accounts and encourage indivudual savings, not more borrowing and spending, which is what got us in this mess in the first place. Banks could use these assets for investing in the economy and we could see solid, sustained growth.

I was born in 1953 and I remember buying "Defense Savings Bond Stamps" in elementary school to encourage savings--0.25 a week would get us a $25 savings bond at the end of the year. Our leaders should bring these wholesome values back.

And, Mr. Varnick, this is not a political statement, but one that makes sense for the long-term health of the economy.

What say you?

Re: Here's a Novel Idea

Agent
IRS
Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:00 AM
This article was refreshing in that it attempts to create a pro-active way to get us out of this mess. Is Obama's plan the right plan? Who know, only God knows what will happen. Am I worried about all the spending? You'd better believe it. Am I mad about AIG, Bank of America and Wall Street? Mad enough that I'd put some people in jail for a long, long time if I could. Let's face it, both parties have their hands dirty in this entire debacle. Let's debate the best way forward for the country and take the best educated path to recovery. One person talks about 5% savings accounts. That's great but with banks paying 5% you won't see 5% mortgages. One talks about Obama the socialist, but is the health care system in dire need of help? If you don't think so, let me ask you how are you going to afford health care when you retire? Medicare? Federal employee health benefits? You had better roll up your sleeves and get to work cause at this rate you & I will not be able to afford it

Re: Here's a Novel Idea

Agent II
IRS
Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:34 PM
Also born in 1953.

It was a different world back in the '50s. The naivety of this notion says it all.

I concur wholeheartedly with my IRS agent colleague.

Looking for the Solution

Office Manager
USDA - Forest Service
Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:49 AM

Excellent Article. We need to start bringing this country together. Let's give our president a chance. The political negativity has trickled down into every day life making people depressed, bitter and angry. I would also suggest staying away from the negative radio talk shows.

Unite with the president

worker
Federal government
Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:09 AM

First I voted for Obama. Second, I generally support his policies
I agree with your idea that we must not spread around lies. I disagree that we must support the President even if we disagree with his policies. I will use Bush's, policies, which I opposed for examples.
I opposed the war in Iraq as the reasons were based on lies. No nuclear material was found. Nothing was found to support the reasons for the invasion. Hussein was a pig. But there are other pigs we are not overthrowing. Therefore, I could not support Bush.
Bush's tax policies were for the rich. They include larger tax cuts for the wealthy, dividend tax cuts for the wealthy, and other things. The middle class got crumbs. Services for the middle class and the poor were cut.
I could not support Bush's contracting out of federal jobs to reward his contracting friends. They were failures for the most part.
These are just a few examples of why we need the talking heads even if we disagree with them

I love this guy.

Paralegal Specialist
USPS
Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:13 AM

I have followed some of the comments in various forums and been continually amazed at the amount of hatred and misinformation conveyed. I did support Obama's election, but honestly believe that none of us -- and that includes the whole world -- can afford for him to fail in his overall efforts to "fix" the American economy. It's so refreshing to see someone advocating a positive approach and for FedSmith to publish it. Thanks to the author and FedSmith.

Support where possible

Lab Supervisor
US Army
Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:15 AM

I will support our President where I agree with him and oppose him where I disagree. Anything less would be to give up my core principles. Many of the "talking heads" you refer to are doing just that.

Re: Support where possible

surveyor
f.s.
Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:23 AM
Where were all these "you have to support your president no matter what" during the Bush presidency? I believe I heard a lot of heated non support because some didn't like his policies. I would not expect them to support the president simply because.

Phil Varnak

manager
Forest Service
Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:33 AM

Thank you, thank you, thank you for speaking your mind and my mind. I'm so glad to know there are reasonable people out there who see the need to bring this country together through encouragement and optimism. Obama's failure will be failure for all. Why would anyone hope for this? Give him a chance, which means give him time and your support. Negative thoughts only bear negative fruit and you will get what you ask for. So ask for success.

Support

Health Scientist
CDC
Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:37 AM

Thank you for putting into words what I have been thinking. I intend to follow you advice.

doesn't make sense

surveyor
f.s.
Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:12 AM

So you didn't vote for Obama presumably because you didn't like or agree with his message and therefore couldn't vote for him. Ok I understand that. Makes sense. Now he is the president so now you do support him? Why? His message/agenda is at the very least the same if not worse than when he was running. Why in the world would anyone compromise their core beliefs or principals simply because he is now the president? That makes no sense what so ever. By that reasoning we should abandon our principals whenever the winds blow against us. I do not want this country to fail. I believe Obama's policies will lead us to failure. I cannot in good conscience want his policies to succeed. I can however work towards helping to change his views but I cannot support his current actions.

Successful at what?

Software Engineer
US Army
Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:49 AM

Europe has already embraced socialism, and it spreads the pain around to everyone. This trillion dollar spending is going to bankrupt the country. I have a federal pension. Who is going to pay it when the money is gone from the treasury? I want him to be successful, but his approach won't work, will only make things worse. I'm moving to Germany, at least the Europeans have figured out a way to live under socialism. Americans will never accept the lifestyle.

Re: Successful at what?

Supervisory HRS
DHS
Wed Mar 25, 2009 12:30 PM
Dumbkopf! The way Europeans can live under socialism is to have Americans pay for their defense!

Re: Successful at what?

Acountant, Retired GS 14
DOE, Albuquerque
Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:51 PM
When's the last time you were in Europe? Duh Never, obviously. There are no socialist countrys in Europe. Venesuela? Yes. Liberalism states that middle classes are not natural and are created by government policys. Social welfare states: Western Europe, Canada, USA, Japan, New Ze Land, Austrailia. NON Social Welfare states: Africa, Asia, South and Central America. I REST MY CASE

SUPPORT?

PROGRAM ANALYST
VHA
Wed Mar 25, 2009 12:01 PM

I will support the President, but I will not support his socialistic plans. Our country was not based on that and will be the downfall of our Great County! I supported Bush, but not his war plans. You can support a Prez all the way to the poor house! Where will that get us if WE do not ask questions or listen to the debaters. What can I say! Why did Obama sign off all those "earmarks" when they were held over from the "Democrats" from Bush era because they couldn't get them passed then. Obama has gone back on his campaign promise to benfit what Pelosi and Reid wanted! Can you not see that once a politician...always a policitian! Get real!!

Respectfully Disagree

Director
USDA
Wed Mar 25, 2009 12:24 PM

First, this is a perfect world article but we have to remember a couple of things:

1. When I have watched any President give his speech to Congress (Remembering the last one with GW Bush) I distinctly remember PuGlosi sitting there with her arms crossed, never once applauding anything he said. I distinctly remember when they panned the audience of House and Senate members, the "arms crossed" on all the Dems instead of showing support. Do they not think this is TELEVISED for all to see? Bottom line, It is THEM that are making the laws, new rules, etc. Everyone can get behind Obama but this is PuGlosi's deal.

2. I live and breath a set of values that have been instilled in me for many years. I hold them to my heart and those values and principles help me in my day to day decisions. I am against stem cell research, abortion and other things. Now, you're telling me I need to get behind the President, as a loyal American, and support him? NOPE!

Re: Respectfully Disagree

IT Specialist
DOD
Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:20 PM
If you watched Pelosi during the President's "Sort of" State of the Union address, did you notice how often she jumped up clapping everytime he talked about raising taxes and overspending taxpayers money we don't actually have? Phil, where was this article when Bush was in office with respect to the Democrats needing to walk across the aisle to support a comprehensive energy policy or even better Social Security reform? Why is Bipartisanship defined as Republicans giving up their core values to cave in to the Democrats when they know their policies are bad for the country? Since the 1980s, Economic historians have written about how FDRs "New Deal" was bad for the country. Before that, they wrote with "Starry Eyed Glee" about what good intentions he had with his policies. We have historic evidence from this country and others that President Obama's "Good" intentions will lead us to disaster. Foreign countries are now warning us that the direction we are headed is wrong.

We need to voice our opinions.

HR Specialist
Small agency
Wed Mar 25, 2009 12:30 PM

Phil, I understand what you are trying to say. It is disheartening the amount of partisan bickering that goes on in this country and keeps us from achieving pretty much anything. And I agree that President Obama is my President, and I support him in that role. But that does not mean that I always agree with him, and even more that does not mean that I should keep my differences to myself. The great thing about our country is that we can actually inform public policy by voicing our opinion and reaching out to those who are elected to serve us. That is what a republic is all about. So suggesting that we should just sit back no matter how much we disagree is contrary to the principles on which this country is founded.

Supporting the President

Electronics Technician
FAA
Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:03 PM

First of all I believe most of the negativity comes from not supporting the liberals moving the U.S. toward Socialism, not from the President himself.

The author is obviously naive to think that everyone is going to be in lockstep just because Obama was elected.

I will not support Socialism in the U.S. from the Democrats or any other party. Period!!!

Re: Supporting the President

SPEC
VHA
Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:29 AM
The author's article was well written with common sense. I don't find him "naive" at all.

I find attitudes like yours puzzling. Are you one of the sore losers he's referring to? If so, grow up and grow a brain. We are all in this together. If you have a better plan of how to put this country back on track, why not run for office next time?

Re: Supporting the President

IT Specialist
DOD
Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:09 PM
Actually Republicans have submitted a number of plans, but the Democrats have shot them down due to ideological differences. Many economist have submitted a number of plans as well. The problem is the Democrats are not really interested in stabilizing the economy. They are more interested in pushing an agenda. Remember the quote "Never waste a good crisis".

LOOKING FOR A SOLUTION

SPEC
VHA
Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:18 AM

Finally, someone who shows a little common sense.

I did vote for President Obama because I was, and still am impressed by his worthiness, and of his interest in his fellow human beings. I believe that if anyone can put our nation back on track, it will be him. I was touched when I saw Mrs. Obama working in a "soup kitchen" feeding the homeless. I don't recall seeing Laura doing this.

I, also, am tired of the bashers who care nothing for this nation, and glory in opportunities to divide us. These individuals are foolish enough not to realize that if President Obama fails, WE AS A NATION FAIL.

Who am I? Just a member of the public whose ancestors settled Germantown, PA, back in the early days when America was young and full of hope for the future. I am just someone who hopes for a bright future for all who come behind me.

Re: LOOKING FOR A SOLUTION

IT Specialist
USDA
Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:57 AM
I looked on google and saw a photo of President and Mrs Bush in a Soup Kitchen (moveon.org)..... You probably missed it because you are a Democrat. I listen to the "talking heads" that are against the Democrats, so I am sure I miss a lot of good things that Democrats do. I agree we need to stop spreading lies.. so stop SPEC VHA!
Bush was in office for 8 years. Democrats took over congress 2 years ago (Obama and Biden were two). The economic problems started 2 years ago. Those are facts.

PS I heard Michael Moore on a talk show saying we shouldn't say anything negative about President Obama.... That was funny!

Re: LOOKING FOR A SOLUTION

IT Specialist
DOD
Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:51 AM
You mean "Homeless" as being able to afford a cell phone with a camera. I wonder what Park Bench the Cell Phone company sends the bill. Public records show the Bushs' are very charitable. Public records also show that the Obamas' have not been very charitable even though Michelle made 300k a year as a Diversity Coordinator. Do a little fact checking??? As far as the soup kitchen, do you think it might have been more for media attention that actually caring about the homeless? Given their lack of charitable contributions (Public Record) as compared to the Bushs', my guess this was more a media stunt. Why doesn't she do it more often? After all, Acorn bused the homeless to the voting booth. She should be grateful. :-))

Re: LOOKING FOR A SOLUTION

IT Specialist
DOD
Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:06 PM
... A note of disclosure. Obama's charitable contributions did significantly increase starting in 2006 when he became a Senator and started running for President. Historically he has not been vary charitable.

I support the U.S. President, too and

employee
FED GOVT
Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:58 AM

I can't wait until the Republicans kick butt in the next elections 2010!

Amen!

Retired
None
Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:58 PM

What a breath of fresh air - I've been saying this for 60 days.

a free man

Analyst
IRS
Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:30 PM

As with the past several presidents I support the office of president, but may or may not support the policies of any particular occupant. From my almost 40 years of watching and reading about current events, the winners want us to all fall in line behind them, and the losers want us with them at every turn. I've decided what my core principles are, and if the current régime is an accord with those then great. If not, don't count me in. Like Number Six in that 1960's TV show The Prisoner - I'm not a number, I'm a free man.

I support President Obama

Retired government employee
Treasury Dept.
Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:07 PM

President Obama is America President. I voted for him and will support him all the way. All this negative and hateful comments about him do not affect him because his concern is about healing this nation economic. Some people say negative hateful comments about anyone who does not believe what they believe, or possible look the color they are. How sad.

Re: I support President Obama

IT Specialist
DOD
Fri Mar 27, 2009 7:33 AM
Where were Democrats that would defend Bush when he was being savaged by the Democrats?? He was called everything in the book and the Libs loved every minute of it. The Hypocracy being showed by Obama supporters is unbelievable.

Re: I support President Obama

Specialist
DOJ
Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:36 PM
DOD IT Specialist, your sour grapes are a joy to behold. In fact, Bush was given every benefit of the doubt by most Democrats & liberals in his first term, especially in terms of support for the Iraq invasion. Think back to March, 03 - it was very hard to find any prominent voices willing to challenge his decision to go to war. The fact is, he blew it not only with Iraq but in his second term, with one inept episode after another. He may as well have taken the U.S. Constitution to use as toilet paper. Obama, with all his flaws, is a major upgrade. And don't hold your breath waiting for the Republicans to "kick butt" in 2010 or '12. They need to get organized & lose the radical nut-case right which has had the party by the testicles since the Reagan administration.