Good riddance! Hey, she can always become a politician.
Hernandez Case
Program Specialist VA Thu May 14, 2009 8:21 AM
I agree that Hernandez broke the law and her punishment was appropriate; however, I also want to point out that this is another example of Obama's double standard policy. While Ms. Hernandez's mother is in this Country illegally, the article doesn't state if the Mother was sent back to Mexico which I doubt. So, we have one more illegal alien mouching off the citizens of the United States while the citizen is fired! GO FIGURE! Since Obama got into office, I can't retire after 30 years of Government Service and I have to pay for the Federal Government breaking their own law. I really am very tired of this entire Administration.
Re: Hernandez Case
PM Treasury Thu May 14, 2009 8:37 AM
This case was being tried long before the current administration; just as the current financial crisis was here BEFORE the current administration! The country will never work it's way out of this mess if we continue to fight against each other. Let's focus on the positive and work together.
Re: Hernandez Case
HR Spc DOT Thu May 14, 2009 8:38 AM
Having worked with MSPB cases for over a decade, I can assure you that this employee's misconduct occured well before Obama became president. But some how it's his fault? Following your thought process, it should be Bush's fault. (I might blame Bush for many things, but not this!)
Re: Hernandez Case
dao cis Thu May 14, 2009 9:05 AM
If she is trying to get her citizenship she is already a legal permannet resident. Therefore, you can not deport her.
Re: Hernandez Case
PROGRAM SUPPORT VA Thu May 14, 2009 9:07 AM
You can not retire due to your own lifestyle choices. Don't blame anyone for your bad choices in life. It's not Obama's, Bush's, Clinton's or any administration personnel. This was clearly bad choices on your part. Obama has only been in office for a 100+ plus few days. How has anything he done affected you personally. I work for the gov for 27 years and my retirement has not been changed at all! Give me a break!
Hernandez Case
Advisor Federal Agency Thu May 14, 2009 9:12 AM
Let's see...Obama administration - January '09. Case tried...before then. Obama administration's fault?? Things that make you go, "Hmmmm..."
Re: Hernandez Case
Computer Scientist DON Thu May 14, 2009 1:49 PM
The case was decided on May 8, 2009. Who was the president then??? "Hmmmm ... "
Waste
Retired Navy Thu May 14, 2009 10:32 AM
I sure hope you folks are not posting these comments from government computers on government time!
Citizenship entitlement
Employee IRS Thu May 14, 2009 11:03 AM
Isn't the greater good to get citizenship status? This administration should have no trouble finding a good supreme court justice that believes so. Especially with the stellar cabinet who finds tax shortcuts.
hernandez case
ao fed Thu May 14, 2009 2:39 PM
This is her fault...not obama. She broke the law, lied and should be fired. They need to send both her and her mother back in their own town. Now go figuer...
Re: hernandez case
Computer Scientist DON Thu May 14, 2009 3:43 PM
How about tax cheats that break the law?
Mitigating factors?
Power Plant Operator Corps of Engineers Thu May 14, 2009 2:53 PM
I find this statement by the court interesting...
The appeals court also pointed to Hernandez's refusal to admit to wrongdoing and her lack of regret for her actions as properly factoring into the removal penalty.
So is saying I was wrong and I'm sorry a route to a less severe discipline?
Re: Mitigating factors?
HR Rep DON Fri May 15, 2009 1:19 PM
Yes and No. It won't automatically reduce your penatly. But thanks to Douglas v. VA there are 12 factors that can mitigate or aggravate a disciplinary situation which must be considered before deciding upon a penalty. Failure to admit you've done something wrong and failure to express regret are two things that play a part in determining your "potential for rehabilitation", which is one of the 12 Douglas Factors.
What about our Vets
Diversity Manager DOL Thu May 14, 2009 7:05 PM
Such a shame we have vets that are disabled and a hispanic gets hired and does this Time to stop all these quota hires
Re: What about our Vets
Vietnam-era Veteran TSA Fri May 15, 2009 12:30 PM
There are no disabled Hispanic vets? And every Hispanic is judged as a "quota hire"? What kind of bigoted nonsense is this? And this from a so-called "Diversity Manager"?
Re: What about our Vets
HR Specialist Dept of Labor Fri May 15, 2009 12:40 PM
Div Man,
Take your racism and leave. We don't need it here. I'm just glad that you don't relly work at DOL.
Re: What about our Vets
Diversity Manager DOL Fri May 15, 2009 4:12 PM
The truth will set you free. Quotas by defination are racism at its worse so if you find comfort in them than shame on you
Re: What about our Vets
Operations Analyst DCMA Fri May 15, 2009 6:35 PM
"Quota" is a buzz-word created by opponents of affirmative action. The fact that you, DOL, would bring the topic up out of any context related to the article in question, shows that you are the one engaging in racism. Looks like you struck out again.
Re: What about our Vets
Machine fixer DOD Wed May 27, 2009 2:38 PM
Maybe what Diversity Manager was looking at was the fact that in order to get a worker's job (ie housekeeping, cafeteria, stock room) with the VA in Tampa, you must be either fluent in some dialect of Spanish. If all one sees are just people of spanish decent working there and almost none of them with converse in even broken english to the vets, then DM must see something that none of you see. I have talked to several disabled vets that applied for those jobs but were turned down because they couldn't speak spanish. I know, from friends that have worked there for many years, that a spanish networking group have been working in and with HR to employ at least 47% non- veterans from spanish decent.
So DM is speaking, maybe from practical experience. I see many of the contractor's workers here in MacDill are non english speaking individuals. And see a few veterans being told that there is no work for them here.
Re: What about our Vets
Annuitant Retired Thu May 28, 2009 6:26 PM
Machine fixer, this is an interesting account. Why would there be a requirement that these employees be fluent in Spanish? Are you sure that's required, or is it the fact that they may happen to be Spanish-speaking? Are there not veterans included among them? Where does this 47% figure come from? And is it strictly limited to non-vets? None of that makes any logical sense to me; & back to the original challenge from VEV: where does anyone get off assuming (a) there are no Hispanic DAVs & (b) any Hispanic must be a "quota hire"? Maybe someone at or familiar with VA Tampa could clarify your assertions.
Helping Mom Become US Citizen
IT USDA Tue Jul 28, 2009 9:40 AM
Sounds like somebody had something personal against Hernandez - retaliation possibly. Most of the things she is accused of seem fairly minor to me compared to what our congressmen, senators, presidents, and other politicians do. And anyone that knows law enforcement personnel at the state, county, federal level know that they think the rules only apply to the general populace and certainly not them also. They generally have a sense of privilege and think they can do whatever they want – so what’s new there?
Hernandez
DOJ
Thu May 14, 2009 8:08 AM
Good riddance! Hey, she can always become a politician.
Hernandez Case
VA
Thu May 14, 2009 8:21 AM
I agree that Hernandez broke the law and her punishment was appropriate; however, I also want to point out that this is another example of Obama's double standard policy. While Ms. Hernandez's mother is in this Country illegally, the article doesn't state if the Mother was sent back to Mexico which I doubt. So, we have one more illegal alien mouching off the citizens of the United States while the citizen is fired! GO FIGURE! Since Obama got into office, I can't retire after 30 years of Government Service and I have to pay for the Federal Government breaking their own law. I really am very tired of this entire Administration.
Re: Hernandez Case
Treasury
Thu May 14, 2009 8:37 AM
Re: Hernandez Case
DOT
Thu May 14, 2009 8:38 AM
Re: Hernandez Case
cis
Thu May 14, 2009 9:05 AM
Re: Hernandez Case
VA
Thu May 14, 2009 9:07 AM
Hernandez Case
Federal Agency
Thu May 14, 2009 9:12 AM
Let's see...Obama administration - January '09. Case tried...before then. Obama administration's fault?? Things that make you go, "Hmmmm..."
Re: Hernandez Case
DON
Thu May 14, 2009 1:49 PM
Waste
Navy
Thu May 14, 2009 10:32 AM
I sure hope you folks are not posting these comments from government computers on government time!
Citizenship entitlement
IRS
Thu May 14, 2009 11:03 AM
Isn't the greater good to get citizenship status? This administration should have no trouble finding a good supreme court justice that believes so. Especially with the stellar cabinet who finds tax shortcuts.
hernandez case
fed
Thu May 14, 2009 2:39 PM
This is her fault...not obama. She broke the law, lied and should be fired. They need to send both her and her mother back in their own town. Now go figuer...
Re: hernandez case
DON
Thu May 14, 2009 3:43 PM
Mitigating factors?
Corps of Engineers
Thu May 14, 2009 2:53 PM
I find this statement by the court interesting...
The appeals court also pointed to Hernandez's refusal to admit to wrongdoing and her lack of regret for her actions as properly factoring into the removal penalty.
So is saying I was wrong and I'm sorry a route to a less severe discipline?
Re: Mitigating factors?
DON
Fri May 15, 2009 1:19 PM
What about our Vets
DOL
Thu May 14, 2009 7:05 PM
Such a shame we have vets that are disabled and a hispanic gets hired and does this Time to stop all these quota hires
Re: What about our Vets
TSA
Fri May 15, 2009 12:30 PM
Re: What about our Vets
Dept of Labor
Fri May 15, 2009 12:40 PM
Take your racism and leave. We don't need it here. I'm just glad that you don't relly work at DOL.
Re: What about our Vets
DOL
Fri May 15, 2009 4:12 PM
Re: What about our Vets
DCMA
Fri May 15, 2009 6:35 PM
Re: What about our Vets
DOD
Wed May 27, 2009 2:38 PM
So DM is speaking, maybe from practical experience. I see many of the contractor's workers here in MacDill are non english speaking individuals. And see a few veterans being told that there is no work for them here.
Re: What about our Vets
Retired
Thu May 28, 2009 6:26 PM
Helping Mom Become US Citizen
USDA
Tue Jul 28, 2009 9:40 AM
Sounds like somebody had something personal against Hernandez - retaliation possibly. Most of the things she is accused of seem fairly minor to me compared to what our congressmen, senators, presidents, and other politicians do. And anyone that knows law enforcement personnel at the state, county, federal level know that they think the rules only apply to the general populace and certainly not them also. They generally have a sense of privilege and think they can do whatever they want – so what’s new there?